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croatian_girl:
Hi Fellas,
So I have been reading this forum for a little while now, observing what kind of hate a certain group of grown men (and women I assume) can fit into a text box. And I know since my nationality is already on your shitlist, nothing I say will adhere to your brains, but I don't care - I decided to write anyways.
First of all, I have to ask, how many of you have ever been to Croatia? Secondly, Croatia has a population of about 4.5 mil and yes, we do have some extremists (like any country/nationality/religion I might add) but there is majority that doesn't support any politic or propaganda. In all honesty you have to admit - since you are fighting to "Save Serbia" here, that croatian USTASA is the same thing as serbian CETNIK.I have no hate towards Serbs, despite the wars and their crazyman Milosevic, and I won't even get into the conversation of who did what or who started what, because it's pointless. I will just focus this on the "jewish part" since this is a JEWISH task force. I don't know how many of you actually look into history from different aspects, and really look into how Jews were treated in Yugoslavia - you can't seperate the countries since they were together - with a capital of Beograd which is in (drum roll please) in Serbia! So therefor you can assume where a lot of political decisions were coming from. I am not here to pass judgements onto anybody, I am here to try to get you guys to give a fare shot to a nation that lived in supression for a long time - as Jews did, and I am talking from the Austro-Hungarian times and prior.
Also, I read a comment somewhere on this forum - that xenophobia is only good if its not against Jews, which I find to be such a contradictory thing, since it seems that Jewish people victimize themselves due to their past, but at the same time they will pass the same judgements they endured onto another human being. It really makes no sense.
One more thing, in mention of Croatian tourism. I could speak of American tourisam and Israeli tourism, where people get robbed, beaten up and whatnot all the time and I know coz I live in NY and travelled all around the world.It seems this forum is just a need to collect negative points of croatia an villinize it to the max, when I am sure the same events happen in Serbia, Israel, USA, Slovenia, Italy, France etc...
I don't listen to Thompson, I don't support Nazi regime, I don't care for past issues and holding on to hate over someone who died a long [censored] time ago over something that was relevant then. Croatia deals with their negativities as much as they can, we try to improve the standard and open up eyes, but Croatian as people also have been through a lot and saw their fathers killed in a pointless war, fighting their friends who they shared dinner with the night before and laughed over the latest episodes of the show Audition (Audicija).
Guys, I think your forum has taken a bad turn and instead of it being a coallition for bettering the world, its becoming the same hate filled bunch of immaturity you were bashing to begin with.
Have a great night and hope you figure yourself out.
Night.
Croatian Girl.
croatian_girl:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on November 04, 2007, 01:57:16 AM ---Croatians have the ability to choose good or evil. G-d gave everyone free will. But you have chosen evil if you come on here and attack JTF. There are some righteous Croatians. In fact there was one Croatian woman who became Jewish and married a Jewish man and brought him back to Judaism. That proves that everyone has free will and the ability to chose between good and evil. If you chose good, then denounce what your country has done to our peoples (Jews and Serbs) and become a Righteous Gentile.
--- End quote ---
Oh my god u r crazy. It is 2007 and you are asking me to denounce my country like its middle ages. I am sorry mr. We are in the age of computers moderniziation, globalization, capitalizm, and ekumena. Therefor, I won't let myself be sucked into your "crusade" - coz - Check yourself - you are pushing a crusade - very similar to islamic extremists....similar tone, similar choice of words...If you can't recognize a criticizm from an attack then you are either very sensitive or unaware of how socializing functions. Secondly, I must be evil? yes sir, by your standards I MUST be evil, coz I am a woman, not jewish, I wear pants, I am croatian and I was raised as a catholic but declare myself as an atheist - I must be a devil down on earth, just came to "attack" this forum, coz I am SOOOO EVILLL. I am SOOOOO EVILLLL that I try to promote tolerance and equality, I am SOOOO EVILLLLL that I try to raise awearness in my country for other religions and races...I am SOOOO EVIL that I never attacked directly on what Serbia did to the whole Yugoslavian area and I mentioned how croatians do have their own crazies - but you guys constantly seem to FAIL to REALIZE - judge yourself first before you judge others. Fix whats wrong in your own back yard before you start [censored] on others.
So..yes. I must be evil. Seriously - check yourself.
AussieJTFer:
The croats butchered tens of thousands of innocent Jewish men, women and children at Jasenovac (not including the almost million Serbs) in such brutal barbarity that even the german nazis were in disbelief at their cruelty. The croatian catholic clergy were themselves involved in the orgy of blood and death and one of these catholic priests cut the heads of 1,500 men in one day. To me there is no difference between a stinking croat and a stinking german, they are both satanic infestations of inhumanity and death and will never change their fascist, murderous and barbaric ways. The croats still buy mein kampf in record numbers and name their streets after the ustasa butchers.
Show me any evidence of the Serbs committing such cold and calculated slaughter at such a grand scale for the sole purpose of total annihilation of the Jews.
croatian_girl:
--- Quote from: AussieJTFer on November 04, 2007, 02:16:59 AM ---The croats butchered tens of thousands of innocent Jewish men, women and children at Jasenovac (not including the almost million Serbs) in such brutal barbarity that even the german nazis were in disbelief at their cruelty. The croatian catholic clergy were themselves involved in the orgy of blood and death and one of these catholic priests cut the heads of 1,500 men in one day. To me there is no difference between a stinking croat and a stinking german, they are both satanic infestations of inhumanity and death and will never change their fascist, murderous and barbaric ways. The croats still buy mein kampf in record numbers and name their streets after the ustasa butchers.
Show me any evidence of the Serbs committing such cold and calculated slaughter at such a grand scale for the sole purpose of total annihilation of the Jews.
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so you will support a nation that did the same thing to Croats and Bosnian Muslim - only because it wasn't done to Jews? Seriously, how can you be sure they wouldn't do the same thing if put in a different situation. And yes, we know about Jasenovac and we admit it and we try to fix certain things - but there is a lot of serbian propaganda from those times speaking against Jews, you can look it up online, I doubt you even tried branching out in that direction.
Secondly, to the person before - say whatever you want to say, I don't doubt that you respect certain groups - but I also see huge amounts of hate towards people you never met or know anything about their independant culture.All the events you speak of were comitted under Serbian ruling and prior - when you are told you will go to jail for showing your religion, and when you are not allowed to celebrate Catholic Christmas in a "union" where you are supposed to be one of the majorities, it really makes you wonder how easy it was for one party to twist the story to go their way...
I didn't want to get into this, because I only protested your blatant hate and in some cases rasism and whatnot (especially in some people's footnotes and signatures).
DALMACIJA:
--- Quote from: croatian_girl on November 04, 2007, 12:14:27 AM ---Hi Fellas,
that croatian USTASA is the same thing as serbian CETNIK.
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Zdravo CroatianGirl,
Inform your self about the real facts.
Cetniks and Ustasas are two totally different things.
You know well who had death camps during WW2 and who had not.
It is a great insult for us to put Nazi Ustase who slaughter million people together in the same corner with the resistance movement like the Cetniks.
The Croatians are calling bad Serbs Cetniks what is totally unreasonable.
You can not compare criminals with heroic Cetnik fighters. You can not call Serbian exceptions Cetniks.
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