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the serbs are friends of the jews (I've removed the accidently placed "NOT")
the truth must be told:
--- Quote from: Merkava on November 06, 2007, 03:20:15 PM ---You calling me a Nazi because I asked another persons point of view ?
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obviously if you question someone elses viewpoint you are a nazi! didnt you know that? c'mon merkava dont be so foolish. if you dont agree or question these peoples views then you are a fascist nazi. that is reasonable is it not?
Srbin:
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--- Quote from: Srbin on November 06, 2007, 03:18:42 PM ---Serbian chetniks were not friends of any nazi germans. They wanted the partizans to vanish so they used the nazis.
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ok finally one of you admit that they did collaborate with the nazis. thanks. at least your honest ...
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Of course. But do you think that chetniks killed jews just because they were using the nazis? And I mean using as in "I am your friend, give me your money and then i screw you because I have never liked you"
You are so childish. You see a photo of a chetnik and an "used" nazi officer and you think he is a nazi just because hit with him? You are so pathetic trying to ruin jew/serb relation. You know why you want to destroy it? You hate serbs and jews, and the way I see it, you are a nazi. What kind of paints do you have in your house? Let me guess, Mussolini, Hitler and the nazi swastika.
Husar:
--- Quote from: Husar on November 06, 2007, 03:14:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: Husar on November 06, 2007, 02:14:04 PM ---@merkava, dexter, bullcat3:
SINCE YOU WANT TO "debate",
WHAT'S THIS ?!!!!!
http://www.ultimatum.20m.com/3_4bih_kardinal.htm
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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WHERE IS THE DEBATE ?
ANY "RIGHTEOUS" ANSWER ?
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Husar:
--- Quote from: Husar on November 06, 2007, 03:02:06 PM ---MERKAVA, YOU CAN CHECK WHAT ANOTHER JEWISH USTASHA IS "DOING":
http://www.ultimatum.20m.com/8_ultimatum8/8_impressum.htm
THIS IS HIS USTASHA/NAZICROAT WEBSITE.
THE PROPAGANDA YOU WANT TO SEE/READ FROM THE NAZICROAT
IS A GERMAN-MADE PROPAGANDA, IN ORDER TO HAVE SERBS AND REMAINING SERBIA WITH THEM.
SERBS DID NOT ACCEPT AND WERE SLAUGHTERED BY EVERY POSSIBLE NAZI AROUND THEM,
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF SERBS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF SERBS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO THERE:
http://www.ultimatum.20m.com/8_ultimatum8/8_impressum.htm
HE LISTENED TO NAZICROATS, LIKE YOU.
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YOU MOCK 'CAUSE I'M SERB ?
ANYBODY CAN SPIT ON SERBIAN MEMORY ?
mord:
Real Jew from Croatia says croations were worse then nazis expose
http://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/Jews.html
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Serbs and Jews
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JEWISH LITERATURE
While talking about the horrors of the Holocaust, Jewish literature tends to be ethnocentric. It is understandable to a certain degree. Still, when talking about suffering in Yugoslavia, all of the literature talks with one voice about "Serbs and Jews"... For Jews and Serbs the destiny was the same.
"Encyclopedia of The Holocaust"
In many volumes of this book one can find many references on suffering of Serbs and Jews in Yugoslavia. Just look for: Croatia, Serbia, Jasenovac, Pavelic, Hussein al-, ... In the chapter on Croatia it says: "THE USTASHA REGIME IN CROATIA, AND PARTICULARLY THIS DRIVE IN THE SUMMER OF 1941 TO EXTERMINATE AND DISPOSSESS THE SERBS, WAS ONE OF THE MOST HORRENDOUS EPISODES OF WORLD WAR II . THE MURDER METHODS APPLIED BY THE USTASHA WERE EXTRAORDINARILY PRIMITIVE AND SADISTIC."
(Professor) Martin Gilbert: "The Holocaust"
This historian, the official biographer of Winston Churchill says: "in Yugoslavia, Hitler had an ideological and physical ally in the Croat Ustashi movement..."
(Professor) Helen Fein: "Accounting for Genocide"
This renowned historian says:"[Already] by June 1941, signs on public establishments [in Nazi Independent State of Croatia] read, NO SERBS, JEWS, NOMADS, AND DOGS ALLOWED. She clearly states:"...Nonpartisan sources agree that mass genocide was authorized by the state of Croatia. They concur the state instigated, planned, and executed masses against the Serbian Orthodox minority ...and that the Catholic clergy approved, led, or failed to denounce these massacres."
(Professor) Raul Hilberg: "The Destruction of the European Jews"
This is probably the best known book on the Jewish holocaust. It consists of two large volumes.
Briefly, this is what Dr. Hilberg says: Since April 1941, Serbia was under German occupation. But proud Serbs could never stand oppression. Soon they started uprising. Unlike anywhere else in occupied Europe, angry Nazi Germans invented 1:100 formula. For every German soldier killed 100 civilian hostages would be executed. Jewish male population was first among the hostages. Croatian Ustashi then finished (by use of gas vans) Jewish women and children of Serbia. This is how German Nazi commander of occupied Serbia could brag that "Jewish question in Serbia was solved".
In Fascist-Catholic Independent State of Croatia, Croat fascists eagerly and bestially exterminate Serbs (in the first place), Jews and Gypsies. Not only did Nazi Croats surpassed Nazi Germans and Fascist Italians - they shocked them with the bestial methods they implemented. It was Fascist Italians that tried to stop Ustashi bloody bacchanalia.
(Professor) Susan Zuccotti:"The Italians and the Holocaust - Persecution, Rescue, Survival" (New York, 1987)
Dr. Nora Levin:"The Holocaust"
The author reminds us:"The Ustashi were fanatics bent on the destruction of both Serbs and Jews... [They] murdered and tortured Jews and Serbs in indescribably bestial fashion. One of the most notorious camps in Hitler's Europe, Jasenovac, was in Croatia. Here the Ustashi used primitive implements in putting their victims to death - knives, axes, hammers and other iron tools... One source estimates that 770,000 Serbs, 40,000 Gypsies and 20,000 Jews were done to death in the Jasenovac camp [alone]."
Michael R. Marrus: "The Holocaust in History"
While talking about the Nazi satellites, the author says:"The overall level of violence was highest in Croatia, where Pavelic's Ustasha movement devised the most thoroughly totalitarian state of any satellite and pursued a merciless, bloody assault on the country's two million Serbs..."
(Professor) Clive Ponting: "Armageddon"
This historian and politician says: "The greatest ethnic slaughter took place as Yugoslavia was carved up after the German invasion in April 1941. The creation of a separate Croatia ... controlled by the fascist, Catholic, extremist Ustasha movement was the catalyst for the tragedy... Now, historic Croatia was expanded to include Bosnia-Herzegovina and other teritories, and the Ustasha were left ... to govern a population of nearly 7 million people, of whom about half were Croats, just over 2 million were Serbs, about 750,000 were Muslims, and small numbers were Protestants and Jews.... The Minister of Education, Mile Budak, made clear the Ustasha aims: "Our new Croatia will get rid of all Serbs in our midst in order to become one hundred percent Catholic within ten years." He spoke of killing a third of the Serbs, converting a third, and expelling the remainder. The leader of the Ustasha, Ante Pavelic, said,"A good Ustasha is one who can use his knife to cut a child from the womb of its mother." (end quote).
Dr. Ronnie S. Landau: "The Nazi Holocaust"
In Yugoslav Croatia, too, there is evidence that officials of the Orthodox Church [that is - the Serbs] pleaded with the authorities [that is to the Nazi Croats - Ustashi] to curtail the vicious treatment meted out to both Orthodox Serbs and Jews.
Major Richard L. Felman
One of more than 500 American Airmen rescued by the Serbs during WWII says: "Many Serbs risked their lives during World War II to save countless Jews from Nazi death camps. This is something we can never forget and for which I and The Jewish People will always be grateful."
Gottlieb Hlinko:"Kaddish in the Serbian Forest" -"The Massacre of European Jewry: An Antology" (Israel: Kibbutz Merchavia, 1963)
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JEWISH REACTION TO THE CURRENT EVENTS
Some Jews still remember...
They shared our fate
"As Jews, we do indeed have a historical obligation to the Serbs" says Mr. Joseph Lapid, a columnist and editorial writer for"Ma'ariv" a leading Hebrew daily.
'Eden' of Sarajevo disappeared during WWII
Says Dr. Alfred Lipson, a Senior Researcher at Holocaust Resource Center and Archives, Queensborough Community College of the City University of New York, Bayside, N.Y.
Serbs, Jews and Bosnia
Professor John Ranz, Chairperson Survivors of the Buchenwald Concentration Camp reminds us of the basic history of the region.
A plan bad to the bone
Dr. Reich, the Director of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington protests Croatian plan to mix the bones of the Holocaust's victims in Croatia with those of its perpetrators.
Fascism is alive and well in Croatia
Professor Howard L. Adelson says "Today Ustashi murderers are being rehabilitated and are being extolled as national heroes by Tudjman despite the fact that they were among the most brutal villains [of WWII]."
The Serbian soldiers - utterly truthful and honorable
...says Herb Brin, the oldest working American journalist and adds: "the decision to bomb the Serb position in Bosnia breaks my heart".
U.S. Jews and the Balkan Situation
Mr. Alvin Dorfman and Mrs. Heather Cottin explain how major Jewish organizations got to spread government anti-Serb propaganda.
Shame, shame, shame!
Charley Reese: "No sin blots American politics today more than the betrayal of the Serbs. No one ought to be more ashamed of U.S. treatment of the Serbs than American Jews."
Jewish motives
Dr. Yohanan Ramati, the Director of The Jerusalem Institute for Western Defence explains mentality of diaspora Jews. How did they alow to be duped.
An open letter to the American Jewish Commitee
Mr. Danon Cadik, the chief Rabbi of Yugoslavia, et. al., pleads for justice.
Set your records straight!
Mr. Jasa Almuli, past President of the Jewish Community of Belgrade and past Vice-President of Jewish Communities in Yugoslavia, pleads for truth.
The Serbs had for ever won a place in the hearts of the Jews
"We the surviving Jews of Serbia have for them respect and understanding. We know that the basic motive of their recent rebellion in secessionist Croatia and Bosnia and Hercegovina were their distrust and deep apprehension after they have been slaughtered in the Nazi era by the Croat Ustashas and Muslim SS..." says Dr. Aleksandar Mosic, Former Deputy President, Federation of Jewish Communities in Yugoslavia.
Serbs are our brothers in soul
"A media Auschwitz, was perpetrated on the Serbian people! The Serbs were dehumanized and portrayed as monsters exactly as the Jews were portrayed through centuries. Do not participate in persecution of the Serbs. They are our brothers. They are people who share the same destiny with us, the Jewish people." says Professor and composer Enriko Josif.
60 Minutes...more yellow journalism on Bosnia!
An open letter by Mrs. Sandy Marquette a Jew from Chicago.
The European Hoodlum Democracy Will Not Break the Serbs
Dr. Klara Mandic, a senior Belgrade Jewish community leader explains the Serbian motives.
America in the Eye of a Hurricane
Dr. Henry Kissinger reminds us that Bosnia had never been an independent state and warns us that long American tradition of support to self-determination has been betrayed.
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Book of facts
History of the Balkans
Before World War One
(Who got to the Balkans and when.)
World War One
(The formation of the first Yugoslavia.)
World War II
(Who was Nazi and who was not.)
After WWII - Tito's Yugoslavia
(Who controlled the country.)
Big powers and civil wars in Yugoslavia
(How was Yugoslavia dismantled and why.)
Proxies at work
(Muslims and Croats were only proxies of the big powers)
The Aftermath
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