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Re: About this forum and its problems
« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2007, 07:11:31 PM »
@jewboy,

a forum is for discussing, absolutely right,
but when it comes to sheer insulting,
it's another thing, not a forum...

 :)
he banned O0 :::D
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Re: About this forum and its problems
« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2007, 03:21:35 AM »
It's banned ?
O.K. then...

 :)
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: About this forum and its problems
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2007, 12:24:39 PM »
This is today's problem, nazi croat under false nick serbianchetnik2 is insulting me for my patriotic avatar and calling brother Husar to be everything but Serb >:( >:(
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Re: About this forum and its problems
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2007, 04:16:12 PM »
Dear Serbian Army,
since this poor creature hasn't got
any valid "argument" to "fight" with us,
it is rather a pityful one little thing.

 ;)

Let's just shoot it up and down.

 ;D
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: About this forum and its problems
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2007, 06:09:51 PM »
Dear Serbian Army,
since this poor creature hasn't got
any valid "argument" to "fight" with us,
it is rather a pityful one little thing.

 ;)

Let's just shoot it up and down.

 ;D
he is telling moderators how his 50 family mamber have been killed by ustasha ::)
what a lier ;D :::D
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Re: About this forum and its problems
« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2007, 02:34:29 AM »
Even if it was true,
why on earth is he attacking us ?

He goes as far as saying
I'm a NAZICROAT, and, therefore,
that I should be banned !!!

 :o

Is he sane ?
He's the one that
started insulting us.

 :o

"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: About this forum and its problems
« Reply #31 on: November 17, 2007, 11:20:06 PM »
I like learning from the Serbian members here. But why on earth are there Nazicroats and other animals invading this forum for kicks?

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Re: About this forum and its problems
« Reply #32 on: November 17, 2007, 11:23:48 PM »
They invade this forum,
especially because of
JTF youtube videos.

They see them on youtube,
can't diggest that the Truth
is, at last, spread world-wide,
and they attack the very source
of this truth-telling Voice, JTF.

 :)

Long Live JTF.
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: About this forum and its problems
« Reply #33 on: November 17, 2007, 11:25:47 PM »
I think only those should be banned who refuse to debate, but defame.

We should only tolerate those who come here to find the truth: either through education or argument.
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Re: About this forum and its problems
« Reply #34 on: November 17, 2007, 11:27:38 PM »
Is "Serbian Nazis" a title that "debates",
or a title that "defames" ?

 ???
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: About this forum and its problems
« Reply #35 on: November 17, 2007, 11:45:31 PM »
Is "Serbian Nazis" a title that "debates",
or a title that "defames" ?

 ???

Any claim that is not supported by an evidence is defamation.
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Re: About this forum and its problems
« Reply #36 on: November 18, 2007, 12:37:07 AM »
Near a
MILLION Serbs


(Men, Women
and Children)

were
murdered,
butchered,
slaughtered,


BY


the NAZIS
during WWII.



WHOM DO WE SERBS
HAVE TO "PROVE" THIS ?


 ??? ??? ???
« Last Edit: November 18, 2007, 02:49:10 PM by Husar »
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
--

CcCc

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Re: About this forum and its problems
« Reply #37 on: November 18, 2007, 02:09:44 AM »
That's the part hardest to understand.

You have to circulate proofs in an ongoing process in order to build a strong propaganda and to be ready to shoot with facts when needed.
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Re: About this forum and its problems
« Reply #38 on: November 19, 2007, 04:02:00 PM »
That's the part hardest to understand.

You have to circulate proofs in an ongoing process in order to build a strong propaganda and to be ready to shoot with facts when needed.

The thing is I don't like propaganda... I just want the truth, nothing else. Propaganda is wrong.
Бог нам помого. Али богами Срби изгледа да нећемо нигде стићи ако се не зложимо. Не смемо заборавити да;

Само Слога Србина Спашава!!!

Али морамо да верујемо у Бога!!!

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Re: About this forum and its problems
« Reply #39 on: November 20, 2007, 05:42:06 PM »
That's the part hardest to understand.

You have to circulate proofs in an ongoing process in order to build a strong propaganda and to be ready to shoot with facts when needed.

The thing is I don't like propaganda... I just want the truth, nothing else. Propaganda is wrong.

All the Serbs DO think the same.

"Propaganda machineries" are the tools of our enemies.

We just love the Truth, much, much more above Life itself.

Bomb us whoever would like to, we'll defend ourselves.

Propaganda is for NAZIS, COMMUNISTS and ISSLAMISTS.

They NEED propaganda to spread their plagues.

No matter how gross and big is the lie (propaganda),
this world is dumb enough to swallow it, without asking
a single question...

Just for the sake of our Children,
we Serbs should change...perhaps...

We should improve our
own "propaganda" in this world...

Brother Chaim wrote/told this quite some times already:
we Serbs are absolutely not skilled in "propagandas"...

I myself make some caricatures of our enemies...
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: About this forum and its problems
« Reply #40 on: November 22, 2007, 02:04:15 PM »
That's the part hardest to understand.

You have to circulate proofs in an ongoing process in order to build a strong propaganda and to be ready to shoot with facts when needed.

The thing is I don't like propaganda... I just want the truth, nothing else. Propaganda is wrong.

All the Serbs DO think the same.

"Propaganda machineries" are the tools of our enemies.

We just love the Truth, much, much more above Life itself.

Bomb us whoever would like to, we'll defend ourselves.

Propaganda is for NAZIS, COMMUNISTS and ISSLAMISTS.

They NEED propaganda to spread their plagues.

No matter how gross and big is the lie (propaganda),
this world is dumb enough to swallow it, without asking
a single question...

Just for the sake of our Children,
we Serbs should change...perhaps...

We should improve our
own "propaganda" in this world...

Brother Chaim wrote/told this quite some times already:
we Serbs are absolutely not skilled in "propagandas"...

I myself make some caricatures of our enemies...

The definition of the word "propaganda" is information spread in order to promote a particular goal. That is it doesn't mean lie.

And please.... leave those loud statements like "Propaganda is for NAZIS, COMMUNISTS and ISSLAMISTS" and "We just love the Truth, much, much more above Life itself"!

Serbs are not different from any other nation in this respect. We all love truth.

And if you came here because you love truth is only because JTF spreads truth through propaganda, which is (repeat after me) information spread in order to promote a particular goal.

Vsego dobrogo!
I am Zvulun ben Moshe and I approve this message.

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Re: About this forum and its problems
« Reply #41 on: November 22, 2007, 02:20:17 PM »
That's the part hardest to understand.

You have to circulate proofs in an ongoing process in order to build a strong propaganda and to be ready to shoot with facts when needed.

The thing is I don't like propaganda... I just want the truth, nothing else. Propaganda is wrong.

All the Serbs DO think the same.

"Propaganda machineries" are the tools of our enemies.

We just love the Truth, much, much more above Life itself.

Bomb us whoever would like to, we'll defend ourselves.

Propaganda is for NAZIS, COMMUNISTS and ISSLAMISTS.

They NEED propaganda to spread their plagues.

No matter how gross and big is the lie (propaganda),
this world is dumb enough to swallow it, without asking
a single question...

Just for the sake of our Children,
we Serbs should change...perhaps...

We should improve our
own "propaganda" in this world...

Brother Chaim wrote/told this quite some times already:
we Serbs are absolutely not skilled in "propagandas"...

I myself make some caricatures of our enemies...

The definition of the word "propaganda" is information spread in order to promote a particular goal. That is it doesn't mean lie.

And please.... leave those loud statements like "Propaganda is for NAZIS, COMMUNISTS and ISSLAMISTS" and "We just love the Truth, much, much more above Life itself"!

Serbs are not different from any other nation in this respect. We all love truth.

And if you came here because you love truth is only because JTF spreads truth through propaganda, which is (repeat after me) information spread in order to promote a particular goal.

Vsego dobrogo!

You're right.
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: About this forum and its problems
« Reply #42 on: November 22, 2007, 02:22:55 PM »
That's the part hardest to understand.

You have to circulate proofs in an ongoing process in order to build a strong propaganda and to be ready to shoot with facts when needed.

The thing is I don't like propaganda... I just want the truth, nothing else. Propaganda is wrong.

All the Serbs DO think the same.

"Propaganda machineries" are the tools of our enemies.

We just love the Truth, much, much more above Life itself.

Bomb us whoever would like to, we'll defend ourselves.

Propaganda is for NAZIS, COMMUNISTS and ISSLAMISTS.

They NEED propaganda to spread their plagues.

No matter how gross and big is the lie (propaganda),
this world is dumb enough to swallow it, without asking
a single question...

Just for the sake of our Children,
we Serbs should change...perhaps...

We should improve our
own "propaganda" in this world...

Brother Chaim wrote/told this quite some times already:
we Serbs are absolutely not skilled in "propagandas"...

I myself make some caricatures of our enemies...




Now, on your turn,
repeat the red sentences after me:

Just for the sake of our Children,
we Serbs should change...perhaps...

We should improve our
own "propaganda" in this world...

Brother Chaim wrote/told this quite some times already:
we Serbs are absolutely not skilled in "propagandas"...

I myself make some caricatures of our enemies...



This meant I agreed with you.
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: About this forum and its problems
« Reply #43 on: November 22, 2007, 02:24:21 PM »
That's the part hardest to understand.

You have to circulate proofs in an ongoing process in order to build a strong propaganda and to be ready to shoot with facts when needed.

The thing is I don't like propaganda... I just want the truth, nothing else. Propaganda is wrong.

All the Serbs DO think the same.

"Propaganda machineries" are the tools of our enemies.

We just love the Truth, much, much more above Life itself.

Bomb us whoever would like to, we'll defend ourselves.

Propaganda is for NAZIS, COMMUNISTS and ISSLAMISTS.

They NEED propaganda to spread their plagues.

No matter how gross and big is the lie (propaganda),
this world is dumb enough to swallow it, without asking
a single question...

Just for the sake of our Children,
we Serbs should change...perhaps...

We should improve our
own "propaganda" in this world...

Brother Chaim wrote/told this quite some times already:
we Serbs are absolutely not skilled in "propagandas"...

I myself make some caricatures of our enemies...

The definition of the word "propaganda" is information spread in order to promote a particular goal. That is it doesn't mean lie.

And please.... leave those loud statements like "Propaganda is for NAZIS, COMMUNISTS and ISSLAMISTS" and "We just love the Truth, much, much more above Life itself"!

Serbs are not different from any other nation in this respect. We all love truth.

And if you came here because you love truth is only because JTF spreads truth through propaganda, which is (repeat after me) information spread in order to promote a particular goal.

Vsego dobrogo!

It's easier in Serbian:

"Sve dobro !"

 ;)
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: About this forum and its problems
« Reply #44 on: December 05, 2007, 12:06:45 PM »
About the Serbian sub-forum of JTF.

We do not have standard rules.
That’s the problem.

We are dealing here with struggle against historical facts.
There are some not appreciated topics in operation on this forum.

There is of course room for other opinions and for third parties.
We are not a Bolshevik organization or dictators, but there must be some kind of a limit. I think that certain  lies should  absolutely not be tolerated at this forum:

The messages must not include the following misled propaganda:

-   Everything that is in struggle against the real context of the Serbian  Chetnik movement.
-   False interpretation of the Serbian religion.
-   Western media lies about the Serbs. Propaganda from the Clinton – Bair
generation.
-   Communist oriented lies which have their roots coming from the Vatican.
-   Deny of the genocide against the Serbs.
-   Glorification of murders or of atrocities.
-   Insulting the Serbian religion, church and the Christian bible.

Who does agree with this?
Comrades please write also your own conditions.

And if we all agree, than the moderator can approve the recognized conditions.

For a better forum!

I would like 'scatholics' isn't used any longer to refer to the whole of Catholic Christians.
We in some West-European countries are Catholics, not all of us are 'scatholics' , even if some are.
i can handle all criticism that you have on the Vatican, as I can take criticism on USA/EU/NATO/UN supporting Croatia, falsely bombarding Serbia,
If you say Croatian scatholics, i can live with that .

BUT ! just stating ALL non-orthodox Christians are 'scatholics' is just insulting fellow JTF-ers, and preventing JTF to grow as a movement along the Catholic Righteous Gentiles.

Turkey must get out of NATO. NATO must get out of Kosovo-Serbia. Croats must get out of Crajina. All muslims must get out of Christian and Jewish land. Turks must get out of Cyprus. Turks must get out of "Istanbul". "Palestinians" must get out of Israel. Israel must become independent from USA.

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Re: About this forum and its problems
« Reply #45 on: December 05, 2007, 12:25:23 PM »
Quote
Just for the sake of our Children,
we Serbs should change...perhaps...

We should improve our
own "propaganda" in this world...

Brother Chaim wrote/told this quite some times already:
we Serbs are absolutely not skilled in "propagandas"...

I myself make some caricatures of our enemies...




Take your propaganda war a lot more serious than you do now.
Make it the most serious cause in your life.

I'm willing to help making a killer youtube movie on Croats, genre "the REAL islam Revealed".

If you Serbs want to work together with non-Serbs here on JTF to prove, and spread the message of that 1 million deaths,
that were killed by ustasha that are today widely remembered by Croat people, and of the Heroic Serbs' history even today with the muslim annexation of Kosovo, the sacred groundof Orthodox Serbs.


And have material or send me links to material (movie, photo, voice-over texts, music).
We could dedicate ourselves to this instead of making fights with each-other.

I believe we can work together!
I mean I have skills to make movies, and you have a story to tell !
Turkey must get out of NATO. NATO must get out of Kosovo-Serbia. Croats must get out of Crajina. All muslims must get out of Christian and Jewish land. Turks must get out of Cyprus. Turks must get out of "Istanbul". "Palestinians" must get out of Israel. Israel must become independent from USA.

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Re: About this forum and its problems
« Reply #46 on: December 05, 2007, 01:52:41 PM »
About the Serbian sub-forum of JTF.

We do not have standard rules.
That’s the problem.

We are dealing here with struggle against historical facts.
There are some not appreciated topics in operation on this forum.

There is of course room for other opinions and for third parties.
We are not a Bolshevik organization or dictators, but there must be some kind of a limit. I think that certain  lies should  absolutely not be tolerated at this forum:

The messages must not include the following misled propaganda:

-   Everything that is in struggle against the real context of the Serbian  Chetnik movement.
-   False interpretation of the Serbian religion.
-   Western media lies about the Serbs. Propaganda from the Clinton – Bair
generation.
-   Communist oriented lies which have their roots coming from the Vatican.
-   Deny of the genocide against the Serbs.
-   Glorification of murders or of atrocities.
-   Insulting the Serbian religion, church and the Christian bible.

Who does agree with this?
Comrades please write also your own conditions.

And if we all agree, than the moderator can approve the recognized conditions.

For a better forum!

I would like 'scatholics' isn't used any longer to refer to the whole of Catholic Christians.
We in some West-European countries are Catholics, not all of us are 'scatholics' , even if some are.
i can handle all criticism that you have on the Vatican, as I can take criticism on USA/EU/NATO/UN supporting Croatia, falsely bombarding Serbia,
If you say Croatian scatholics, i can live with that .

BUT ! just stating ALL non-orthodox Christians are 'scatholics' is just insulting fellow JTF-ers, and preventing JTF to grow as a movement along the Catholic Righteous Gentiles.



I have to agree ambiorix. "Scatholic" shouldn't even be used. Let's refer to the people (Enemies), not religion.
« Last Edit: December 05, 2007, 01:56:04 PM by Srbin »
Бог нам помого. Али богами Срби изгледа да нећемо нигде стићи ако се не зложимо. Не смемо заборавити да;

Само Слога Србина Спашава!!!

Али морамо да верујемо у Бога!!!

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Re: About this forum and its problems
« Reply #47 on: December 05, 2007, 03:01:21 PM »
BUT ! just stating ALL non-orthodox Christians are 'scatholics' is just insulting fellow JTF-ers, and preventing JTF to grow as a movement along the Catholic Righteous Gentiles.

Comrade. Maybe you misunderstood me. Or maybe I was not clear enough, its possible. I have nothing against people because of their religious background.

I even have nothing against Muslims who have normal values and habits.
I am against the Vatican expansion and it’s domination.

Normal Catholics have nothing to do with that. Of course. Blaming all Catholics for the atrocities of their religious leaders is not good..
I do not accuse all Catholics for the actions of the Vatican.

I know very well what the Vatican had done toward the Serbs in Croatia.
And we Serbs must be careful with them.

To all non-orthodox Christians I can only say welcome to the JTF!

Alright comrade!
« Last Edit: December 05, 2007, 03:10:49 PM by DALMACIJA »

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Re: About this forum and its problems
« Reply #48 on: January 21, 2008, 10:32:56 PM »
Hello Everyone,

As a Jewish Croat I was somewhat galvanised into making a comment on this topic....From watching a video about the Utashe and recognition of atrocities of WII from this website I noticed that apparently and which is an extreme misconception and has no factual foundation it appears to be claimed by the narrator on the video that the early 1990s Croatia was to be formed on the grounds of the WII policy of a Utashe Run independent state of Croatia which in itself is absurd......Furthermore it does not take into account that during the homeland war the orignal displacement of Krajina Croats from illegal unconstitional dealings between Babic and Milosevic but rather a list of of croatian atrosties that I do not deny but which nevertheless paints completely a one-sided picture. We seem to forget the anomalies in all this as only through searching them do you find the truth, Chetniks and Utashe seem to be somewhat like two sides of the same coin both fighting against the Partisans(Which included my relatives) at times even collaborating at the later parts of the WII. I have seen videos that show factual evidence that Nazi Germany recieved loans from Jewish bankers, Milosevic and Tudman's secret meetings, convenient ceasefires, Foreign Aid and Intelligence, Jews convinced to give negative proganda on Croatia in the 90s, the list goes well beyond these few points....Their are certainly strange forces at work.

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Re: About this forum and its problems
« Reply #49 on: January 22, 2008, 08:02:48 AM »
Don't ever compare the Cetniks and the ustase.. Ever.. I don't care what you think or what you've seen. They are not different sides of the same coin. Cetniks never slaughtered 1.000.000 people.

And as a Jewish croat i can't believe you even compared them. Cetnici saved the jews.

as far as Cetnik collaboration goes, they struck deals and ceasefires with the italians to minimize civilian deaths.