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Ambiorix:

--- Quote ---Just for the sake of our Children,
we Serbs should change...perhaps...

We should improve our
own "propaganda" in this world...

Brother Chaim wrote/told this quite some times already:
we Serbs are absolutely not skilled in "propagandas"...

I myself make some caricatures of our enemies...


--- End quote ---



Take your propaganda war a lot more serious than you do now.
Make it the most serious cause in your life.

I'm willing to help making a killer youtube movie on Croats, genre "the REAL islam Revealed".

If you Serbs want to work together with non-Serbs here on JTF to prove, and spread the message of that 1 million deaths,
that were killed by ustasha that are today widely remembered by Croat people, and of the Heroic Serbs' history even today with the muslim annexation of Kosovo, the sacred groundof Orthodox Serbs.


And have material or send me links to material (movie, photo, voice-over texts, music).
We could dedicate ourselves to this instead of making fights with each-other.

I believe we can work together!
I mean I have skills to make movies, and you have a story to tell !

Srbin:

--- Quote from: Ambiorix on December 05, 2007, 12:06:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: DALMACIJA on November 06, 2007, 03:57:27 PM ---About the Serbian sub-forum of JTF.

We do not have standard rules.
That’s the problem.

We are dealing here with struggle against historical facts.
There are some not appreciated topics in operation on this forum.

There is of course room for other opinions and for third parties.
We are not a Bolshevik organization or dictators, but there must be some kind of a limit. I think that certain  lies should  absolutely not be tolerated at this forum:

The messages must not include the following misled propaganda:

-   Everything that is in struggle against the real context of the Serbian  Chetnik movement.
-   False interpretation of the Serbian religion.
-   Western media lies about the Serbs. Propaganda from the Clinton – Bair
generation.
-   Communist oriented lies which have their roots coming from the Vatican.
-   Deny of the genocide against the Serbs.
-   Glorification of murders or of atrocities.
-   Insulting the Serbian religion, church and the Christian bible.

Who does agree with this?
Comrades please write also your own conditions.

And if we all agree, than the moderator can approve the recognized conditions.

For a better forum!

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I would like 'scatholics' isn't used any longer to refer to the whole of Catholic Christians.
We in some West-European countries are Catholics, not all of us are 'scatholics' , even if some are.
i can handle all criticism that you have on the Vatican, as I can take criticism on USA/EU/NATO/UN supporting Croatia, falsely bombarding Serbia,
If you say Croatian scatholics, i can live with that .

BUT ! just stating ALL non-orthodox Christians are 'scatholics' is just insulting fellow JTF-ers, and preventing JTF to grow as a movement along the Catholic Righteous Gentiles.



--- End quote ---

I have to agree ambiorix. "Scatholic" shouldn't even be used. Let's refer to the people (Enemies), not religion.

DALMACIJA:

--- Quote from: Ambiorix on December 05, 2007, 12:06:45 PM ---BUT ! just stating ALL non-orthodox Christians are 'scatholics' is just insulting fellow JTF-ers, and preventing JTF to grow as a movement along the Catholic Righteous Gentiles.

--- End quote ---

Comrade. Maybe you misunderstood me. Or maybe I was not clear enough, its possible. I have nothing against people because of their religious background.

I even have nothing against Muslims who have normal values and habits.
I am against the Vatican expansion and it’s domination.

Normal Catholics have nothing to do with that. Of course. Blaming all Catholics for the atrocities of their religious leaders is not good..
I do not accuse all Catholics for the actions of the Vatican.

I know very well what the Vatican had done toward the Serbs in Croatia.
And we Serbs must be careful with them.

To all non-orthodox Christians I can only say welcome to the JTF!

Alright comrade!

Dado:
Hello Everyone,

As a Jewish Croat I was somewhat galvanised into making a comment on this topic....From watching a video about the Utashe and recognition of atrocities of WII from this website I noticed that apparently and which is an extreme misconception and has no factual foundation it appears to be claimed by the narrator on the video that the early 1990s Croatia was to be formed on the grounds of the WII policy of a Utashe Run independent state of Croatia which in itself is absurd......Furthermore it does not take into account that during the homeland war the orignal displacement of Krajina Croats from illegal unconstitional dealings between Babic and Milosevic but rather a list of of croatian atrosties that I do not deny but which nevertheless paints completely a one-sided picture. We seem to forget the anomalies in all this as only through searching them do you find the truth, Chetniks and Utashe seem to be somewhat like two sides of the same coin both fighting against the Partisans(Which included my relatives) at times even collaborating at the later parts of the WII. I have seen videos that show factual evidence that Nazi Germany recieved loans from Jewish bankers, Milosevic and Tudman's secret meetings, convenient ceasefires, Foreign Aid and Intelligence, Jews convinced to give negative proganda on Croatia in the 90s, the list goes well beyond these few points....Their are certainly strange forces at work.

Serbian Cetnik (šumadinac):
Don't ever compare the Cetniks and the ustase.. Ever.. I don't care what you think or what you've seen. They are not different sides of the same coin. Cetniks never slaughtered 1.000.000 people.

And as a Jewish croat i can't believe you even compared them. Cetnici saved the jews.

as far as Cetnik collaboration goes, they struck deals and ceasefires with the italians to minimize civilian deaths.

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