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JPFO (Jews for preservation of firearm ownership) support Ron Paul?
JTFFan:
--- Quote from: jtfrudy08 on December 02, 2007, 02:34:26 AM ---The few thing that are good about Ron Paul pale in comparison to the things he will do against Israel and the Jewish Community. Rudy Giuliani for all his flaws is a far better candidate then Ron Paul
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I agree, much better. O0
White Israelite:
--- Quote from: RationalThought110 on December 02, 2007, 05:22:17 AM ---
--- Quote from: Cohen on December 02, 2007, 01:16:49 AM ---
--- Quote from: jtfrudy08 on December 01, 2007, 11:17:51 PM ---Yes I care that is why I support a candidate that is does not intentionally appeal to Anti Semites as well as protest the Second Amendment. Mike Huckabee
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So how do we know huckabee won't sign the assault weapon ban?
Ron Paul said he would get rid of the NICS (Background check) and work to get rid of other gun laws as well, also get rid of IRS.
These candidates say they support 2nd amendment yet they support silly restrictions unless your a hunter.
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So you think someone with a mental disorder should own a gun without any background check?
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Classify by what you indicate is a "mental disorder", you know many veterans with PTSD cannot own guns anymore? Several people are misdiagnosed as "mentally ill". In that case, if you don't trust them with a gun, do you trust them with a car? Do you trust them in society? If people are so truely ill that they are a threat to themselves or others, then put them in a mental institution. It's the same with felons, if you have done your time in jail, your rights SHOULD BE RESTORED. If the person is still a threat to society, keep them locked up, simple.
--- Quote from: jtfrudy08 on December 02, 2007, 06:04:49 AM ---Of course not. I am not insane like Ron Paul a simple background check is a reasonable restriction
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No there is no such thing as a reasonable restriction, what part of "SHALL NOT INFRINGED" do you not understand? Do you know how many people have been denied on NICS that are not criminals or who have never committed a crime due to similar name or what not? A background check turns a right into a privilege. Obviously you seem to have forgotten history how Hitler used the same "restrictions" to stop Jews from buying guns.
You remind me of all the other gun control candidates, you claim you support the 2nd amendment and probably march with the million mom march and claim "we are not anti-gun, we are for reasonable gun control restrictions, close the gun show loophole!!!"
Let me guess, you support banning the .50 cal barrett sniper rifle because the brady campaign says terrorists might use it to shoot down planes, do you support banning AK47's as well because it's the terrorist weapon of choice?
The majority of people who claim to be against gun control don't know what their talking about, I am against any restrictions period! The government has NO RIGHT to regulate the right to bear arms.
Go watch JPFO's documentary the gang, heres the trailer.
Learn your history
I seriously wonder if people worship politicians more than G-d
Sounds pretty much identical to todays laws
he 1938 German Weapons Law
The 1938 German Weapons Law superseded the 1928 law. As under the 1928 law, citizens were required to have a permit to carry a firearm and a separate permit to acquire a firearm. Furthermore, the law restricted ownership of firearms to "...persons whose trustworthiness is not in question and who can show a need for a (gun) permit." Under the new law:
* Gun restricton laws only applied to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition. Writes Prof. Bernard Harcourt of the University of Chicago, "The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition."[4]
* The groups of people who were exempt from the acquisition permit requirement expanded. Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and Nazi party members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions. Prior to the 1938 law, only officials of the central government, the states, and employees of the German Reichsbahn Railways were exempted.[5]
* The age at which persons could own guns was lowered from 20 to 18.[6]
* The firearms carry permit was valid for three years instead of one year.[7]
* Jews were forbidden from the manufacturing of firearms and ammunition.[8]
Under both the 1928 and 1938 laws, gun manifacturers and dealers were required to maintain records with information about who purchased guns and the guns' serial numbers. These records were to be delivered to a police authority for inspection at the end of each year.
On November 11, 1938, the Minister of the Interior, Wilhelm Frick, passed Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons. This regulation effectively deprived all Jews of the right to possess firearms or other weapons.
דוד בן זאב אריה:
You are saying that some one who is insane should be alowed to get a gun no questions asked.
"No there is no such thing as a reasonable restriction"
Hate to break it to you but you are just plain wrong
White Israelite:
--- Quote from: jtfrudy08 on December 02, 2007, 08:19:13 PM ---You are saying that some one who is insane should be alowed to get a gun no questions asked.
"No there is no such thing as a reasonable restriction"
Hate to break it to you but you are just plain wrong
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Have you read the constitution??!
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
Thomas Jefferson
Do you know what the definition of free is?
grant freedom to; free from confinement
If you are are in prison, you are not free, if you are in a mental institution, you are not free.
I didn't say give criminals and mentally ill guns, I said if they are truely a threat to society, why bother releasing criminals back on the street? What the hell is the point of taking away peoples rights and making them live as a 2nd class citizen? You support a tyrannical government taking away your rights?
Do you know what the word infringe means?
conflict: go against, as of rules and laws; "He ran afoul of the law"; "This behavior conflicts with our rules"
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Your like all the other people i've met who say they support the second amendment then they say "Oh why do you need a uzi?" "Why do you need a full automatic machine gun?" same [censored], different people.
I'm sure when Giuliani signs the assault weapon ban, you'll be nodding your head saying it's for the good of society or is the right to bear arms just at the bottom of your list of priorities?
דוד בן זאב אריה:
With your stance a mentally unstable Muslim citizen of the United States a shoot up a school or mall or stadium. We do have Muslim Nazis in this country legally so should they be given the right to bear arms. We have to be smart. I take it you are responsible enough to own a gun so why would it bother you to go through a screening processes to get a gun. You have nothing to hide. What you are saying is that it's okay for a Retarded Muslim to buy a gun no questions asked. Well when a Muslim Shoots up a Mall full of Christmas shoppers will you still say that it's his right.
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