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newman:
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--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on December 13, 2007, 08:49:50 PM ---
It's not the age of having the child...it's letting your child grow up and see you grow older without dying and getting sick on them when they are 17 years old...and it's you as a mother or father that gets to watch them get married and have children of their own...
It's just insane to wait until a very old age to have children and only be able to have about one or two...And it's not fair to the kids who lose their parents when they are barely in their 20's...Gd willing, I want to be able to have children young enough so that I can still play ball with them!
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I agree.
Men who father children in their 60s are silly, old fools trying to prove their virility. The human life span is still "three score and ten" (70 years). Have 'em by 45 or forget it.
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Maybe they married late and are trying to fulfill the mitsva incumbent upon them to have children? It really depends on the situation.
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That mitzvah is not absolute.
Noah's family did not procreate on the ark. They waited until they got to land.
Joseph only had 2 children because Egypt was in famine.
You cannot have children if you cannot support them so you should not if you are likely to die before they reach adulthood.
Dr. Dan:
Well a couple issues here....
Better to have a child than to never have a child.
However, while young, don't delay having children too late or getting married to have children too late. In marriage you have to be selfless and understand that your farts don't necessarily smell good to everyone, so to speak.
There is a rule, I heard, in Judaism that if one cannot afford to have challah each shabbat or somethign like that, can wait to have children.
newman:
--- Quote from: There Are No 'Israeli' Arabs on December 13, 2007, 10:41:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: newman on December 13, 2007, 09:51:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: There Are No 'Israeli' Arabs on December 13, 2007, 09:29:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: newman on December 13, 2007, 08:55:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on December 13, 2007, 08:49:50 PM ---
It's not the age of having the child...it's letting your child grow up and see you grow older without dying and getting sick on them when they are 17 years old...and it's you as a mother or father that gets to watch them get married and have children of their own...
It's just insane to wait until a very old age to have children and only be able to have about one or two...And it's not fair to the kids who lose their parents when they are barely in their 20's...Gd willing, I want to be able to have children young enough so that I can still play ball with them!
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I agree.
Men who father children in their 60s are silly, old fools trying to prove their virility. The human life span is still "three score and ten" (70 years). Have 'em by 45 or forget it.
--- End quote ---
Maybe they married late and are trying to fulfill the mitsva incumbent upon them to have children? It really depends on the situation.
--- End quote ---
That mitzvah is not absolute.
Noah's family did not procreate on the ark. They waited until they got to land.
Joseph only had 2 children because Egypt was in famine.
You cannot have children if you cannot support them so you should not if you are likely to die before they reach adulthood.
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Noah was not Jewish. There is no mitsva for a gentile to have kids, as far as I know.
Yosef haTsaddiq had two children because he simply had two children. He was royalty, the most powerful man in Egypt, and didn't starve at all, and neither would his kids. Moreover, the Torah specifically says that the Jews multiplied greatly as soon as the 70 individuals set-up shop in the prime real estate of Goshen: "And Israel dwelt in the land of Egypt in the land of Goshen, and they acquired property in it, and they were prolific and multiplied greatly." (Genesis 47:27).
Even King Hezekia was weary of having children because he (correctly) foresaw that his son would be a wicked man and lead Israel into idolatry. G-d scolded him for that, and he eventually had that son.
Sara Immenu had her son Yishaq, despite her old age. It was the biggest blessing she could have ever asked for.
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I was paraphrasing a Rabbi I saw on a show about population.
The point is (according to him) that one should not have children unless environmental and economic conditions allow for it. That is the lesson drawn from Noach and Joseph. It was also the case in Russia's shtetls for some.
Obviously this has not applied to Jews in the USA, Israel and other affluent countries. But I think it would apply to an elderly person who has little chance of remaining alive to support the child to adulthood.
Kiwi:
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--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on December 13, 2007, 07:46:58 AM ---not normal where I come from and who i see...most people i know think they are too good for the next one until panick starts at the age of 36.
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Whats the rush at 36 for?
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to get married.
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I went to a wedding last year of this couple i know, they are in their 80's, known each other all there lives, watched each other marry, others raise their familes, their grand children.
And finally they married each other in the end. They both waited a life time to be happy. So this 36 mark I think is more than a little out of wack.
Marriage is more that having kids and sex. Its more about companionship. Rushing into anything because of a number is never wise.
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well 36 years is all relative...it just depends...
Marraige is about ethically putting a man and woman in captivity...You take the good with the bad and you learn to deal with it!
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Bull you have never been married so you talking on something you have no experience in.
Or real knowledge.
Kiwi:
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--- Quote from: The Infidel. on December 13, 2007, 06:22:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on December 13, 2007, 07:46:58 AM ---not normal where I come from and who i see...most people i know think they are too good for the next one until panick starts at the age of 36.
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Whats the rush at 36 for?
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The biological time-bomb goes 'tick tick tick'.
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Women can have children up to the 63 I think is the oldest. HRT allows women to extend the ability to carry a child.
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It's not the age of having the child...it's letting your child grow up and see you grow older without dying and getting sick on them when they are 17 years old...and it's you as a mother or father that gets to watch them get married and have children of their own...
It's just insane to wait until a very old age to have children and only be able to have about one or two...And it's not fair to the kids who lose their parents when they are barely in their 20's...Gd willing, I want to be able to have children young enough so that I can still play ball with them!
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You can die at any age so that rules that out. Example my father died when was 22. So bang goes that theory :::D
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