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Re: Huckabee is the best candidate on Israel.
« Reply #75 on: December 06, 2007, 12:36:01 AM »


1. Semitic...oops typo...
2. You're the one who started calling me names. Not me.
3. You defend Ron Paul as you defend Kahanism and the JDL like a true liberal would defend Black Panthers speech, Nazi speech, KKK speech, and Islamic speech for the sake of free speech. Just because one supports a righteous group and a righteous person doesn't make it OK when that same person supports someone who, TO ME, is very evil.  It makes me think that you have an ulterior motive in mind that disagrees with what is moral to me and to JTF as a movement, like it did with Allen-T.  Remember him?  He supported JTF, while he supported evil actions against the Jewish religion and Jewish people.  YOU SUPPORT A MAN WHO HAS A PHILOSOPHY, THAT IF HE BECOMES MAINSTREAM AND POPULAR, GD FORBID, CAN DESTROY THIS COUNTRY AND PERHAPS, DAMAGE THE REST OF THE WORLD!!!! So ask yourself, who's mom dropped who on THEIR head when they were little? Massuah, it's black and white to me that you are a WAY OFF!!!  And you are COMPLETELY OUT OF LINE with your reaction to me of how I personally feel about Ron Paul. I simply said that he was a Nazi and that I didn't like him, and you went off on a tirade that I'm pre-pubescent and some spoiled teenager.  And you have the nerve to insult ME!? You were raised and "educated by what you say "Genuine KKK and Nazis"?!  Am I reading that correctly? You put the word genuine next to "KKK and Nazis"! Yah...I think someone here on this forum with 1600 posts like Allen-T lost his marbles if there were any there to begin with...Buddy, I know who I'm arguing with. You are certainly educated..but you are very WRONG in every single way!!!
3. Thank you for that adage...you describe yourself extremely well as that FOOL!



But isn't the country already being destroyed with open borders and the fall decline of the dollar and the establishments intent on a NAU? 

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Re: Huckabee is the best candidate on Israel.
« Reply #76 on: December 06, 2007, 01:46:24 AM »
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Dr. Dan,
Your reply is incoherent, rambling, accusatory, never once makes so much as one valid point.
Now you feel that I have some sort of "ulterior motive"...
Sounds like a 'paranoid delusion'.
Why of all things to suddenly mention Allen-T, someone with no JTF affiliation, as well as someone with no connection to the subject of discussion at hand...and then to immediately equate my views as being so unacceptable to you, yourself, that to you that must mean that I am exactly like Allen-T?
You're thought patterns are incoherent.
You have an addled mind, seemingly incapable of focusing on one subject.
For anyone of any political stripe to waste time and words on you is futile.
However, what's tragic is that you are incapable of debating any opponent and are incapable of representing JTF on the public podium if and when the time should come to debate our opponents.
I honestly could care less what you think about me.
Enjoy the New World Order...it was custom made just for you.


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Re: Huckabee is the best candidate on Israel.
« Reply #77 on: December 06, 2007, 08:25:21 AM »
Re:  Dr. Dan

Dr. Dan,
Your reply is incoherent, rambling, accusatory, never once makes so much as one valid point.
Now you feel that I have some sort of "ulterior motive"...
Sounds like a 'paranoid delusion'.
Why of all things to suddenly mention Allen-T, someone with no JTF affiliation, as well as someone with no connection to the subject of discussion at hand...and then to immediately equate my views as being so unacceptable to you, yourself, that to you that must mean that I am exactly like Allen-T?
You're thought patterns are incoherent.
You have an addled mind, seemingly incapable of focusing on one subject.
For anyone of any political stripe to waste time and words on you is futile.
However, what's tragic is that you are incapable of debating any opponent and are incapable of representing JTF on the public podium if and when the time should come to debate our opponents.
I honestly could care less what you think about me.
Enjoy the New World Order...it was custom made just for you.



You idiot!!! you equate genuineness with with Nazis and KKK people!!! I'm waiting....
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Re: Huckabee is the best candidate on Israel.
« Reply #78 on: December 06, 2007, 11:04:22 AM »
I must say that as one whom has knowledge in Geo-Politics and is fairly learned on history I am very much enjoying this little debate MassuhD and Dr. Dan.  I can see and understand MassuhD's take as well Dr. Dan's but more pointedly Rationalthought little add-on. 

Ron Paul, which I don't believe is personally a Nazi but do not understand some of his beliefs, would not do as much damage to America as the Establishment has done since Woodrow Wilson.  If anything, his Libertarianism would direct America back to what it was founded as: A Constitutional Rebublic not a Democracy like Socialist Canada or its current: Oligarchy. 

Hypothetically speaking, if Dr. Dan, MassuhD or ol-MarZutra was politically active for a number of years and threw his hat into the ring for candidacy for the Presidency on the platform of closing the borders, ending “free trade’, expel all illegal aliens, end “foreign aid”, end income tax and investigate the Federal Reserve and its affiliates and taking a more isolationist approach……etc. I’m very much sure that the StørmFrønt, Nazis and every other racially bigoted group would lend their full support. 

MassuhD makes good points in that Paul is, to my knowledge, not a member and unassociated with any of these Nazi-like groups.  Even Herr Schickelgruber was a member of the NSDAP.  I personally, feel that Ron Paul is good on some issues and questionable, as RationalThought outlined to me, on others but I highly doubt Mr. Paul would be another Adolf Shitler.  Perhaps if he was elected he’d take down the Elitists and the Jewish Anti-Jews like Soros or Kissenger and for that would be blessed with Kiddush HaShem…. ;-)

My 2 cents… 
« Last Edit: December 06, 2007, 11:06:36 AM by MarZutra »
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Huckabee is the best candidate on Israel.
« Reply #79 on: December 06, 2007, 11:26:10 AM »


1. Semitic...oops typo...
2. You're the one who started calling me names. Not me.
3. You defend Ron Paul as you defend Kahanism and the JDL like a true liberal would defend Black Panthers speech, Nazi speech, KKK speech, and Islamic speech for the sake of free speech. Just because one supports a righteous group and a righteous person doesn't make it OK when that same person supports someone who, TO ME, is very evil.  It makes me think that you have an ulterior motive in mind that disagrees with what is moral to me and to JTF as a movement, like it did with Allen-T.  Remember him?  He supported JTF, while he supported evil actions against the Jewish religion and Jewish people.  YOU SUPPORT A MAN WHO HAS A PHILOSOPHY, THAT IF HE BECOMES MAINSTREAM AND POPULAR, GD FORBID, CAN DESTROY THIS COUNTRY AND PERHAPS, DAMAGE THE REST OF THE WORLD!!!! So ask yourself, who's mom dropped who on THEIR head when they were little? Massuah, it's black and white to me that you are a WAY OFF!!!  And you are COMPLETELY OUT OF LINE with your reaction to me of how I personally feel about Ron Paul. I simply said that he was a Nazi and that I didn't like him, and you went off on a tirade that I'm pre-pubescent and some spoiled teenager.  And you have the nerve to insult ME!? You were raised and "educated by what you say "Genuine KKK and Nazis"?!  Am I reading that correctly? You put the word genuine next to "KKK and Nazis"! Yah...I think someone here on this forum with 1600 posts like Allen-T lost his marbles if there were any there to begin with...Buddy, I know who I'm arguing with. You are certainly educated..but you are very WRONG in every single way!!!
3. Thank you for that adage...you describe yourself extremely well as that FOOL!



But isn't the country already being destroyed with open borders and the fall decline of the dollar and the establishments intent on a NAU? 


Listen actual KKK and Neo-nazis are not the immediate threat...You're right..open borders and Islam are the immediate threat. But that doesn't mean we side wtih those Nazis who are ALSO against Muslims..
If someone says something bad about you, say something nice about them. That way, both of you would be lying.

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Re: Huckabee is the best candidate on Israel.
« Reply #80 on: December 06, 2007, 11:28:21 AM »
I must say that as one whom has knowledge in Geo-Politics and is fairly learned on history I am very much enjoying this little debate MassuhD and Dr. Dan.  I can see and understand MassuhD's take as well Dr. Dan's but more pointedly Rationalthought little add-on. 

Ron Paul, which I don't believe is personally a Nazi but do not understand some of his beliefs, would not do as much damage to America as the Establishment has done since Woodrow Wilson.  If anything, his Libertarianism would direct America back to what it was founded as: A Constitutional Rebublic not a Democracy like Socialist Canada or its current: Oligarchy. 

Hypothetically speaking, if Dr. Dan, MassuhD or ol-MarZutra was politically active for a number of years and threw his hat into the ring for candidacy for the Presidency on the platform of closing the borders, ending “free trade’, expel all illegal aliens, end “foreign aid”, end income tax and investigate the Federal Reserve and its affiliates and taking a more isolationist approach……etc. I’m very much sure that the StørmFrønt, Nazis and every other racially bigoted group would lend their full support. 

MassuhD makes good points in that Paul is, to my knowledge, not a member and unassociated with any of these Nazi-like groups.  Even Herr Schickelgruber was a member of the NSDAP.  I personally, feel that Ron Paul is good on some issues and questionable, as RationalThought outlined to me, on others but I highly doubt Mr. Paul would be another Adolf Shitler.  Perhaps if he was elected he’d take down the Elitists and the Jewish Anti-Jews like Soros or Kissenger and for that would be blessed with Kiddush HaShem…. ;-)

My 2 cents… 


I gotchya...got heated in the moment here...

But Paul is no where near a saint...and an evil person is an evil person...but I hear ya...

And i hear you too MassuaD...the insults on me which you started, was unnecessary...
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Re: Huckabee is the best candidate on Israel.
« Reply #81 on: December 06, 2007, 11:53:51 AM »
I agree with you Dr. Dan.  The sad fact is any "good" individual will never be able to run for the Presidency.  It would take an act of G-d for something like that to happen as America, like Israel and Britian are oligarchies now.  If a true good person came through that person would get destroyed like Barry Goldwater did in 64 or the Elites would toss in another "Republican" candidate to split the vote. 

It is all one big sham in my opinion.  As Savage says.  A choice between diet Pepsi and diet Coke.  I mean how does any system allow millions of criminals to continue to stay within their borders or leave the borders open....or justify such ineptitudes with a farcical "guest worker program".  This is criminality and corruption at the highest level....imo on that one example of many...

Like Israel's Knesset needs to be cleansed so does, in my opinion, American political arena....
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Huckabee is the best candidate on Israel.
« Reply #82 on: December 06, 2007, 11:56:17 AM »
I agree with you Dr. Dan.  The sad fact is any "good" individual will never be able to run for the Presidency.  It would take an act of G-d for something like that to happen as America, like Israel and Britian are oligarchies now.  If a true good person came through that person would get destroyed like Barry Goldwater did in 64 or the Elites would toss in another "Republican" candidate to split the vote. 

It is all one big sham in my opinion.  As Savage says.  A choice between diet Pepsi and diet Coke.  I mean how does any system allow millions of criminals to continue to stay within their borders or leave the borders open....or justify such ineptitudes with a farcical "guest worker program".  This is criminality and corruption at the highest level....imo on that one example of many...

Like Israel's Knesset needs to be cleansed so does, in my opinion, American political arena....



I agree with you and Massuah brings up that very point in his own words..so on that note, he's right also.
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Re: Huckabee is the best candidate on Israel.
« Reply #83 on: December 06, 2007, 09:37:33 PM »
To Dr. Dan & others,

Let's bury the hatchet.

It's time consuming and unproductive.

I've got a right to get furious and sling some cr*p every now & then, which isn't very often.

Deal?

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Re: Huckabee is the best candidate on Israel.
« Reply #84 on: December 06, 2007, 09:47:22 PM »
Deal.  Now get to work on the Save Israel section...LOL ;)
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Huckabee is the best candidate on Israel.
« Reply #85 on: December 06, 2007, 10:51:59 PM »
To Dr. Dan & others,

Let's bury the hatchet.

It's time consuming and unproductive.

I've got a right to get furious and sling some cr*p every now & then, which isn't very often.

Deal?

It's a deal, buddy! All is forgotten..

See? Isn't this nice? :)
If someone says something bad about you, say something nice about them. That way, both of you would be lying.

In your heart you know WE are right and in your guts you know THEY are nuts!

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