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Are Gentiles allowed to live in The Land of Israel ?
Dexter:
--- Quote from: jdl4ever on December 25, 2007, 06:18:15 PM ---The same applies to both. If a nation of Gentiles are allowed to live in the land of Israel if they obey the 7 Noahide Laws and meet the requirements of Avdut and Mas then certainly a few may live among us.
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So gentiles will be slaves and noachides ?
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
I don't think you are understanding it correctly. The word "slaves" in ancient Hebrew is more like servents and not the type of slaves that we think of today. But gentiles (as Jews) would have to be servents for the King and state. Meaning that their would be national service that people are required to serve the state. (either army, or other work, I believe since back then they weren't takin to the army, they had to do national labor and send their young ones to do national work. In a way just like some Religious women do because having Women in the army isn't allowed by judaism.
jdl4ever:
Dexter, Avdut doesn't literally mean slavery in this context, it is used as a general term of "service" meaning that they are bound to government service when it is requested from them. For example, if we need people to build roads some may be called up for a few days to assist the government with or without pay in return for them living there. That's what it Avdut means in this context. Or they may have to serve in the army or assist in building the Temple or something similar to this.
Dexter:
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on December 26, 2007, 12:39:05 AM ---I don't think you are understanding it correctly. The word "slaves" in ancient Hebrew is more like servents and not the type of slaves that we think of today. But gentiles (as Jews) would have to be servents for the King and state. Meaning that their would be national service that people are required to serve the state. (either army, or other work, I believe since back then they weren't takin to the army, they had to do national labor and send their young ones to do national work. In a way just like some Religious women do because having Women in the army isn't allowed by judaism.
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--- Quote from: jdl4ever on December 26, 2007, 12:52:43 AM ---Dexter, Avdut doesn't literally mean slavery in this context, it is used as a general term of "service" meaning that they are bound to government service when it is requested from them. For example, if we need people to build roads some may be called up for a few days to assist the government with or without pay in return for them living there. That's what it Avdut means in this context. Or they may have to serve in the army or assist in building the Temple or something similar to this.
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So the Jews weren't realy slaves in Egypt ?
It means exectly the same both in acient Hebrew and moderen Hebrew.
kahaneloyalist:
Avdut can mean slavery or service depending on the context, when the Jews were in Egypt it was slavery, for the Goyim living in Israel its service.
Also JDL building the Beit HaMikdash was a strictly Jewish project, Goyim werent even allowed to be involved
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