It occurs to me that since sex education in schools was introduced we have more bastard babies, rape and abortion than we had when people were (supposedly) ignorant of it.
Why not 'Social Responsibility' classes that teach black hos in the inner cities not to scatter bastard babies all over the ghetto?
Not necessarily true.
Are you kidding?
Wanna compare statistics from 1957 to 2007?
Your claim that it is this way is because of sex education class...
My claim that it isn't necessarily because of sex education class...there is something else in the air that might have also caused a lot of teenage pregnancies. I prefer to blame it on the moral decay and inability to use morality properly by our government and Hollywood's glorification of things like children out of wetlock.
I agree with you, Dr. Dan. I think some people get "Sex Education" mixed up with "How to Have Sex" education. This attitude is precisely the reason why so many parents refuse to talk to their children about sex; they're too afraid that the info they give would be like reading a "How To" manual. I've actually seen a lot of children grow up where whenever the word sex was said in the household, they would be beaten to a pulp because "sex" is supposed to be a bad word.
What creates young teen moms (black, white, yellow, pink or green) is the lack of information about safe sex, or abstainence.
Sex needs to be taught maturely by parents before the stupid liberal schools brainwash their children.
How can schools brainwash children with the truth? What do you think these classes teach children? And another thing... sex is so taboo, that parents these days regard the word as 'dirty'. What do you suggest when parents WON'T speak to their children about sex, because they're prudes? How else should they learn?
Because schools encourage their students to have abortions, unhealthy birth control pills, condoms, flavored condoms, pre-marital relations, sodomy, cunnilingus, fellatio, masturbation, and to view pornography. Is there room for marriage in their astute vocabularies?
Why do they need to learn? If the teaching of this holy act between a husband and wife is not for the sake of (in the case of Jews) Jewish law, or not for the sake of (in the case of both Jews and goyim) instilling the correct values, how to treat a woman not like a piece of meat that can be chewed or thrown away, how to conduct oneself in marriage, then for what grand purpose do they need to learn?
Take a look at the statistics of your own community and ask me again if you think public school sex education benefitted them.
First of all, that's not what sex ed teaches children in school. NONE of that. You think that people who teach sex ed are telling them HOW to have sex ...and you're wrong. I had sex ed in school and what they taught girls and boys were about the changes in their bodies. What? do you think that when kids become adolesants that they don't have sexual curiosities? Boys have unspeakable things happen to them when they are asked to stand up in class (during the puberty stage)...Most girls when they start their menses usually start in school while in class. These are things that happen in the human body.
What I learned in sex ed was not only what condoms do but why it was important to save myself. I (we) learned what STD's LOOK like (which turned off A LOT OF KIDS from THINKING about sex again until they were responsible enough to protect themselves. The boys learned that respecting women, and girls is important and that girls should never be pressured into sex. Girls learned to value themselves and their bodies.
I know that in your religion that a lot of things are frowned upon that would be tolerated outside of your religion. I understand that and respect that. However, in this instance, if parents don't say a word to their children about sex (because children as early as 5 years old are naturally curious) they will learn somewhere unfavorable; for instance, friends who don't know what they're talking about but can tell them how it felt.
We can't go throughout life telling our kids that they'll die if they have sex. That's not necessarily true. Sex is a beautiful when shared between two consenting adults in a monogomous relationship; and shouldn't be entered into lightly because feelings are involved: When you're too young to even name your feelings. It is best to save yourself for the one you're going to be with for the rest of your life. *But guess what? Most teenagers don't wait.*
I don't know where you got the idea that sex education had ANYTHING to do with teaching children about cunniligus, and such. That's just crazy! And as far as checking "my community", why don't we take a poll on every community where teenagers and their raging hormones reside. Premarital sex doesn't only happen in the black community. *And just because it happens a LOT in the black community, it doesn't mute the fact that children and young adults in other communities are doing the same thing.
If you want to stop children from having sex too early, talk to them as if they have half a brain...not like they're pod people.
Times have changed since your sex education, Erica. Everything I mentioned above was the extent of my public school sex education. You mention "between two consenting adults in a monogomous relationship"--why not 5 consenting adults in a married relationship? Everything is of course relative. How can we judge what people do in the comfort of their own homes?
Prevention of AIDS and all the other diseases that your community suffers from is abstinence. Teaching the value of birth control pills will not create abstinence.
How old are you? And another thing...what if teens decide NOT to wait, what will you tell them? What's important is that we give them the tools to make the right decisions. If they choose not to, we have to teach them other ways to communicate with their girlfriends or boyfriends. Sex isn't the end all to be all to life. I think some of you wish the teens of America could just go inside of a cocoon of some sort and come out more 'mature' and 'all-knowing' on the other side. It doesn't happen like that.
maybe not in your community wear sex was the norm as a teenager..Heck, even having kids out of wetlock was the norm in your community...
It isn't in our's...so you can't compare apples and oranges...The culture of your community doesn't frown upon being single and having kids as much. In our's it is ridiculed when it happens to one of us. The school has a small responsibility to teach anatomy and biology. It is the parent's and religious institution to teach morality.
And if the parents DON'T teach their children morality, or don't have a religous institution, what should come of the children? You don't want them to have sex out of wedlock, and you don't want them to learn from trained professionals who actually teach sex ed...what do you suggest?
As for the differences in our communities, I understand that. I believe though that we were talking about teaching children sex ed who don't get it; not those who do.
It would also be good to know from any of you how the birds and the bees were taught to you when you were growing up in your Jewish households.
Again, please fill me in on what sex ed has done for your community. If you can't do that, then please tell me how you as a woman who lives/lived there will manage to teach a bunch of buffoons to make their sex ed work.
I can only tell you what the LACK of sex ed has done for people in my community. That is, sex ed at HOME and at school. The LACK of sex ed at home and at school has brought forth the teen pregnancy rate you speak of. Children are left to their own devices or are left taking advice from OTHER teens who know nothing about anything so they pass the ignorance along. The parents are such prudes and are so afraid to even say the word sex around their kids that they'd just assume threaten them with death than talk about it outright.
I actually reaped the benefit of sex ed in school. My sister and I were told that we'd be just like the girls we knew who had kids at 13, 14, and 15 years old. Thankfully, I had sex ed in school and she had me to talk to. We both waited until we were ready to do anything and we both didn't have children until we were in our 20's. Those are just two examples of what GOOD SEX ED can actually do to further a community. But I'm sure there are more.
Without sex ed, we are only left with children who don't give a damn about their lives, the lives of others or anything else. They're just winging it.
You are not being clear enough. I construed from what you said that the biggest delay for your having children out of wedlock like all your friends did at an earlier age was looking at the crappy lives of others who made the mistake.
No, it was because I was taught about sex the right way by people who are qualified to give the information. They told me..and since my mom wasn't giving up the information freely, without poking and prodding, it was better than me learning from the mindless drones roaming our community who had no clue of what sex was. What I learned I tried to teach to my sister. What came of that was us knowing what safe sex and SAFER sex was before doing ANYTHING. (Safer sex being abstainence.)
If that class wasn't there for me, I assure you, some dummy with a little bit of information about how sex feels would have been there. That would have done me absolutely no good.
Did you have child out of wedlock?
NO. And you know it.
Your post was not clear so that's why I was asking.
My question continues by asking how your public school system failed to reach out to your other peers? You are already a unique one amongst the people in your community because you speak intelligently and write maturely, so I'm not surprised that you concieved children within wedlock.
I'm by no means saying this is the case with all blacks, but does the typical ghettoized mother and father (if applicable) teach their children ANY values, besides the act of sex? What about respect for human life, property, manners, etc? The issue of not teaching kids about sex is part of a much more broad problem within your community, namely the lack of teaching ANY real values.
They didn't fail to reach out to my other peers. We were all taught sex ed at the same time ( my age group) and about 89% of us decided against having sex until we were mature enough to handle the consequences. The other 11% learned nothing because once their parents found out that sex ed was being taught in our school, they forbid their kids to take the class, then they did not follow through with the teaching. They closed up like clams and treated sex as if it was a bad word or a bad act. That made their children depend on sources outside of the home...unreliable sources, at that.
I believe that it's a parent's job to tell their children about sex and answer the tough questions that follow. But I also think that by saying that even when parents don't step up to the plate that qualified professionals in schools shouldn't give the information out. That's like telling the kids to go out, have sex irresponsibly and bear lots of kids in the process. You really don't give the kids a choice when you take sex ed out of the homes AND out of schools. One situation has to balance out the other when one isn't available.
This isn't only a problem in the black community. This is a national problem. Its also an international problem. I have yet to meet a parent who isn't afraid to draw pictures, explain in debth, and provide helpful information about sex to their children. I mean,with my own mom, it was really hard to get her to talkabout the birds and the bees with me. I threw her for a loop when I asked her what 'making love' was ,at 9 years old. She sat me down in her bedroom and preceded to sweat, wring her hands, go into minor descriptions about the beginning stages of sex..THEN she lost her nerve, turned on the television (where ironically "The Miracle of Childbirth" was showing on PBS) and like a puff of smoke, she was gone.
When parents can deal with the fact that when
they have sex, it isn't a dirty thing, then and only then they will be comfortable enough to talk to their kids without leaving their kids confused.
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