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Should they be banned?

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Should New Year's Eve parties be banned?
« on: December 31, 2007, 11:40:28 PM »
I think they should.

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Re: Should New Year's Eve parties be banned?
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2008, 12:25:13 AM »
NO! I like the fireworks  :-\ Some Gentile activites are nice, I even enjoy the chinese new year, you want to ban that too.

How about accepting not everyone is Jewish, and respecting their cultures if it doesn't harm anyone else.

I think some here are a bit of a "kill joy".

Oh my I have just realised,  I am more left than the Doc  ???  :-\

 

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Re: Should New Year's Eve parties be banned?
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2008, 12:27:01 AM »
Are we demanding that the people should abstain from their traditions?
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Re: Should New Year's Eve parties be banned?
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2008, 12:28:02 AM »
Quote from: Ambiorix on January 01, 2008, 12:27:01 AM
Are we demanding that the people should abstain from their traditions?

Looks like it. :-\
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Re: Should New Year's Eve parties be banned?
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2008, 12:35:38 AM »
   I think it should depend on the type of party. If it is an occasion where friends and family get together to have a good but moral time, I am all for it. If it is a bunch of people getting together to get drunk and have immoral sex, that should be banned any time of the year.
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Re: Should New Year's Eve parties be banned?
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2008, 12:38:14 AM »
Of course New Year's Eve parties should not be banned.  That's one of the most ridiculous polls I've seen on the forum.  If you don't want to take part in a New years party, then don't, but that's no need to want to deprive millions of people of a legitimate celebration.  You can ban the party for yourself if you want, but wanting to ban the celebration for millions, even hundreds of millions of people is completely unjustified and would deprive many people of joy that they get from it. 
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Re: Should New Year's Eve parties be banned?
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2008, 12:40:24 AM »
No!
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Re: Should New Year's Eve parties be banned?
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2008, 12:42:09 AM »
Doesn't this completely go against the concept of letting gentiles run their holidays, and country as they want?  Why should Jews be concerned with the way gentile holidays are run?  What is next, are we going to tell Christians how to celebrate Christmas?  I don't see how the way people celebrate New Years is any concern to us.  It is certainly not something that we have or should have any decision over, whatsoever. 
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Re: Should New Year's Eve parties be banned?
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2008, 12:48:38 AM »
I don't really see the harm, its a cultural thing not a religious event.

Here in Australia any Jew, Christain, Pagan etc enjoys the event, if anything its the one time of the year where your beliefs are never taken into account, you are seen as just a person, an Australian.






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Re: Should New Year's Eve parties be banned?
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2008, 12:50:37 AM »
It's not like it will ever be banned, no one will really except it.
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Re: Should New Year's Eve parties be banned?
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2008, 12:51:40 AM »
Quote from: Ze'ev Jabotinsky on January 01, 2008, 12:38:14 AM
Of course New Year's Eve parties should not be banned.  That's one of the most ridiculous polls I've seen on the forum.  If you don't want to take part in a New years party, then don't, but that's no need to want to deprive millions of people of a legitimate celebration.  You can ban the party for yourself if you want, but wanting to ban the celebration for millions, even hundreds of millions of people is completely unjustified and would deprive many people of joy that they get from it. 
Exactly! 
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Re: Should New Year's Eve parties be banned?
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2008, 01:12:01 AM »
I voted NO. Did you mean a legal civil ban on everyone or a religious psak for Jews not to take part in them?
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Re: Should New Year's Eve parties be banned?
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2008, 01:21:07 AM »
It's no wonder secular Israelis are horrified by the idea of a religious state.
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Re: Should New Year's Eve parties be banned?
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2008, 06:08:00 AM »
intentions to ban N.Y. parties are signs of weakness  :o

we are no islamic society fearful of everything foreign   :(
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Re: Should New Year's Eve parties be banned?
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2008, 06:17:03 AM »
Don't say "ban", say "discouraged."
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Re: Should New Year's Eve parties be banned?
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2008, 06:28:13 AM »
just because you weren't invited to one doesn't mean you have to ruin it for the rest of us!
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Re: Should New Year's Eve parties be banned?
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2008, 06:30:44 AM »
Quote from: Skippy on January 01, 2008, 12:25:13 AM
NO! I like the fireworks  :-\ Some Gentile activites are nice, I even enjoy the chinese new year, you want to ban that too.

How about accepting not everyone is Jewish, and respecting their cultures if it doesn't harm anyone else.

I think some here are a bit of a "kill joy".

Oh my I have just realised,  I am more left than the Doc  ???  :-\

 



I notice the embitterment by some on this forum when there are parties.  I know some people here become the way they are...when someone can't have something, then they accept certain rules that would disallow other to have the same thing so that they feel better and more empowered that they aren't alone...

However, in israel, jan 1st and dec 31st shouldn't be days that ISraelis ought to celebrate. It is a secular/non Jewish holiday..but the rest of the world is the rest of the world.
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Re: Should New Year's Eve parties be banned?
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2008, 07:00:56 AM »
Quote from: Dr. Dan on January 01, 2008, 06:30:44 AM
Quote from: Skippy on January 01, 2008, 12:25:13 AM
NO! I like the fireworks  :-\ Some Gentile activites are nice, I even enjoy the chinese new year, you want to ban that too.

How about accepting not everyone is Jewish, and respecting their cultures if it doesn't harm anyone else.

I think some here are a bit of a "kill joy".

Oh my I have just realised,  I am more left than the Doc  ???  :-\

 



I notice the embitterment by some on this forum when there are parties.  I know some people here become the way they are...when someone can't have something, then they accept certain rules that would disallow other to have the same thing so that they feel better and more empowered that they aren't alone...

However, in israel, jan 1st and dec 31st shouldn't be days that ISraelis ought to celebrate. It is a secular/non Jewish holiday..but the rest of the world is the rest of the world.

I puzzles me Doc, because no matter what has happen to the Jewish people they have never lost the ability to laugh and be entertained. Afterall look at all the famous Jews that create enjoyment for others.

God gave us a gift it would be a shame not to use it. Not so much celebrate the event, more of celebrate and enjoy the people around us.


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Re: Should New Year's Eve parties be banned?
« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2008, 08:29:28 AM »
I personally think that New Year parties are rather silly, but I think that banning them would be wrong, people should be allowed to celebrate when they want to.
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Re: Should New Year's Eve parties be banned?
« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2008, 08:35:37 AM »
If people want to waste money on silly things then thats their problem.

The fireworks and sound display here, costed £100,000 per minute.

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Re: Should New Year's Eve parties be banned?
« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2008, 08:37:43 AM »
No, it should not be banned. This new-year-party is as much religious as Kwanzaa.

It is a cultural event and it is funny  ;D (except the headache next day :'()

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Re: Should New Year's Eve parties be banned?
« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2008, 08:45:56 AM »
Quote from: Sarah on January 01, 2008, 08:35:37 AM
If people want to waste money on silly things then thats their problem.

The fireworks and sound display here, costed £100,000 per minute.



Do you watch them?
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Re: Should New Year's Eve parties be banned?
« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2008, 08:50:14 AM »
I'm wit my sweethearts on dis ones, you peeples are just stuck up, kill joys because you am don'ts like to haves any fun.
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Re: Should New Year's Eve parties be banned?
« Reply #23 on: January 01, 2008, 09:40:02 AM »
Quote from: Dr. Dan on January 01, 2008, 06:28:13 AM
just because you weren't invited to one doesn't mean you have to ruin it for the rest of us!

LOL.
NO. New Year's Eve parties shouldn't be banned!
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Re: Should New Year's Eve parties be banned?
« Reply #24 on: January 01, 2008, 11:03:34 AM »
Individuals should be allowed to be as foolish as they like.
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