Guns and Self-Defense > Guns/Firearms
PTSD, Meds, and the Back Door Gun Ban (Video)
White Israelite:
--- Quote from: Skippy on January 09, 2008, 09:48:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: Cohen on January 09, 2008, 09:42:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: Skippy on January 09, 2008, 09:38:33 PM ---
--- Quote from: KansasJew on January 09, 2008, 09:34:07 PM ---Okay setting aside the debate of Mental Illness.
Rabbi Meir Kahane was very pro Gun. Matter of Fact he coined the phrase
"EVERY JEW A 22!"
The JTF was founded on JDL principles so in the spirit of Rabbi Kahane the JTF by default should be and is very pro weapons for the Jewish People for defense against our enemies.
--- End quote ---
JTF was founded correctly on that principle, and most importantly JTF is law abiding.
I have no problems with a person with a Disability having a gun if they are capable.
--- End quote ---
There's no law that prohibits me from possessing a firearm so why the opposition if I am mentally capable and qualified to own a firearm?
Let me guess, you don't trust someone with a mental illness therefore you don't feel I should be allowed to protect myself? So much pepper spray and a tazer will do against gestapo style raids when the SHTF.
I am armed purely for the fact I can, the more armed citizens, the more we keep the government in check.
--- End quote ---
No American law thats correct, if you were in another country you would not have a firearm.
I never said you can't protect yourself, just not with a gun.
--- End quote ---
Some people call religion a mental illness, you really want government control over something like firearms when they are already corrupt as is with what they do? You may think I'm "mentally ill" but that is societies term for it. You can't assume because someones on medication or goes through mood swings that suddenly they are incapable of handling themselves. You say I should be able to protect myself but not with a gun, you are still focusing on an inanimate tool thinking someone is dangerous with a gun but not other tools. You have yet to reinforce your position on this. I am deemed mentally qualified and am responsible for my own life. Likewise, do you feel people who experience PMS or have obsessive compulsive disorder, attention deficit disorder, or suffer depression have no right to arm themselves?
Your overall presentation to me is that you still feel government should have overall control of who should have a gun and strict requirements in keeping control. Do not take what I say as offensive but you have a dangerous mindset in regards to those similar previous to the holocaust that government should maintain strict control over firearm ownership. While Jews lived decent in Germany previous to Hitler (which the strict gun laws were put in place), Hitler took advantage of this system which he was able to disarm subjects he deemed "unfit" for firearm ownership.
I've been posting fact after fact where government regulation and control of firearms leads. How many of you have actually read the JPFO website or researched the Nazi gun control laws extensively?
Kiwi:
--- Quote from: Cohen on January 09, 2008, 09:54:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: Skippy on January 09, 2008, 09:48:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: Cohen on January 09, 2008, 09:42:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: Skippy on January 09, 2008, 09:38:33 PM ---
--- Quote from: KansasJew on January 09, 2008, 09:34:07 PM ---Okay setting aside the debate of Mental Illness.
Rabbi Meir Kahane was very pro Gun. Matter of Fact he coined the phrase
"EVERY JEW A 22!"
The JTF was founded on JDL principles so in the spirit of Rabbi Kahane the JTF by default should be and is very pro weapons for the Jewish People for defense against our enemies.
--- End quote ---
JTF was founded correctly on that principle, and most importantly JTF is law abiding.
I have no problems with a person with a Disability having a gun if they are capable.
--- End quote ---
There's no law that prohibits me from possessing a firearm so why the opposition if I am mentally capable and qualified to own a firearm?
Let me guess, you don't trust someone with a mental illness therefore you don't feel I should be allowed to protect myself? So much pepper spray and a tazer will do against gestapo style raids when the SHTF.
I am armed purely for the fact I can, the more armed citizens, the more we keep the government in check.
--- End quote ---
No American law thats correct, if you were in another country you would not have a firearm.
I never said you can't protect yourself, just not with a gun.
--- End quote ---
Some people call religion a mental illness, you really want government control over something like firearms when they are already corrupt as is with what they do? You may think I'm "mentally ill" but that is societies term for it. You can't assume because someones on medication or goes through mood swings that suddenly they are incapable of handling themselves. You say I should be able to protect myself but not with a gun, you are still focusing on an inanimate tool thinking someone is dangerous with a gun but not other tools. You have yet to reinforce your position on this. I am deemed mentally qualified and am responsible for my own life. Likewise, do you feel people who experience PMS or have obsessive compulsive disorder, attention deficit disorder, or suffer depression have no right to arm themselves?
Your overall presentation to me is that you still feel government should have overall control of who should have a gun and strict requirements in keeping control. Do not take what I say as offensive but you have a dangerous mindset in regards to those similar previous to the holocaust that government should maintain strict control over firearm ownership. While Jews lived decent in Germany previous to Hitler (which the strict gun laws were put in place), Hitler took advantage of this system which he was able to disarm subjects he deemed "unfit" for firearm ownership.
I've been posting fact after fact where government regulation and control of firearms leads. How many of you have actually read the JPFO website or researched the Nazi gun control laws extensively?
--- End quote ---
I have posted over and over again Mental illness = no guns.
And that it.
I think the USA has massive problems because of Lefties that scream my rights, I want I want I want!
Without focusing on the bigger picture.
White Israelite:
--- Quote from: Skippy on January 09, 2008, 10:06:37 PM ---
--- Quote from: Cohen on January 09, 2008, 09:54:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: Skippy on January 09, 2008, 09:48:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: Cohen on January 09, 2008, 09:42:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: Skippy on January 09, 2008, 09:38:33 PM ---
--- Quote from: KansasJew on January 09, 2008, 09:34:07 PM ---Okay setting aside the debate of Mental Illness.
Rabbi Meir Kahane was very pro Gun. Matter of Fact he coined the phrase
"EVERY JEW A 22!"
The JTF was founded on JDL principles so in the spirit of Rabbi Kahane the JTF by default should be and is very pro weapons for the Jewish People for defense against our enemies.
--- End quote ---
JTF was founded correctly on that principle, and most importantly JTF is law abiding.
I have no problems with a person with a Disability having a gun if they are capable.
--- End quote ---
There's no law that prohibits me from possessing a firearm so why the opposition if I am mentally capable and qualified to own a firearm?
Let me guess, you don't trust someone with a mental illness therefore you don't feel I should be allowed to protect myself? So much pepper spray and a tazer will do against gestapo style raids when the SHTF.
I am armed purely for the fact I can, the more armed citizens, the more we keep the government in check.
--- End quote ---
No American law thats correct, if you were in another country you would not have a firearm.
I never said you can't protect yourself, just not with a gun.
--- End quote ---
Some people call religion a mental illness, you really want government control over something like firearms when they are already corrupt as is with what they do? You may think I'm "mentally ill" but that is societies term for it. You can't assume because someones on medication or goes through mood swings that suddenly they are incapable of handling themselves. You say I should be able to protect myself but not with a gun, you are still focusing on an inanimate tool thinking someone is dangerous with a gun but not other tools. You have yet to reinforce your position on this. I am deemed mentally qualified and am responsible for my own life. Likewise, do you feel people who experience PMS or have obsessive compulsive disorder, attention deficit disorder, or suffer depression have no right to arm themselves?
Your overall presentation to me is that you still feel government should have overall control of who should have a gun and strict requirements in keeping control. Do not take what I say as offensive but you have a dangerous mindset in regards to those similar previous to the holocaust that government should maintain strict control over firearm ownership. While Jews lived decent in Germany previous to Hitler (which the strict gun laws were put in place), Hitler took advantage of this system which he was able to disarm subjects he deemed "unfit" for firearm ownership.
I've been posting fact after fact where government regulation and control of firearms leads. How many of you have actually read the JPFO website or researched the Nazi gun control laws extensively?
--- End quote ---
I have posted over and over again Mental illness = no guns.
And that it.
I think the USA has massive problems because of Lefties that scream my rights, I want I want I want!
Without focusing on the bigger picture.
--- End quote ---
Isn't it the lefties who preach about government regulation and control? Lefties are well known for supporting Gun Control.
I won't be giving up my guns, and I am disappointed on your stance as you continue to ignore the facts. I really worry for the future generation and fellow Jews who are not on the same level as KansasJew and myself.
What will you be saying when the government is rounding up our guns? It is for the good of the people and we can have tazers to fight back instead?
Kiwi:
Oh really "I want it, give it to me, have no laws, no rules, everyone is equal, everyone should have what they want" Sounds very Left and commie to me.
KansasJew:
Is it selfish to protect one's self from harm both physically and spiritually? I am concerned with your communist reference?
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