This is so disgusting that i cant even name it

[ramen]

I would recomomed you eating kosher, and if I was a gentile I would only eat kosher, or halal.
 About taste- you get used to everything, and for me it tastes great.
 I did hear that non-kosher is sometimes more jucier, but the reason is because Jews take out the blood and urine, wastes by salting the meat. Also diseases which are common in non-kosher meat, doesn't exist in Kosher meat (ex- mad cow disease, and some others which come from time to time).

Our ancestres have been eating pork since the beginning of times.

Why is pork forbidden according to the Thora?
Is our European climate, not different?
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Coz it is dirty meat. THe thought of eating a pig......uuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhhhhh oink oink

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

I would recomomed you eating kosher, and if I was a gentile I would only eat kosher, or halal.
 About taste- you get used to everything, and for me it tastes great.
 I did hear that non-kosher is sometimes more jucier, but the reason is because Jews take out the blood and urine, wastes by salting the meat. Also diseases which are common in non-kosher meat, doesn't exist in Kosher meat (ex- mad cow disease, and some others which come from time to time).

Our ancestres have been eating pork since the beginning of times.

Why is pork forbidden according to the Thora?
Is our European climate, not different?

 I never said anything about pork, either pro or con, just meat like cows, goats, etc.

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

Also one more thing- the Torah says that if the meat is slaghtered and it doesn't come out to be Kosher, it says to throw it to the dogs for them to eat, so in a way if I was a gentile I wouldn't eat that (if I believed in the Torah).

[Shlomo]

Tzvi Ben Roshel is correct. You should listen to him.

I have heard Rabbis say that it is better that gentiles eat only kosher meat or not eat meat at all. There are an infinite number of spiritual reasons for this. A few (for the sake of the argument) are the soul of the animal is taken into the person who eats the animal (you are what you eat), the energy used from taking the animal's life for food (which should only be used for good), and the blood of the animal that shouldn't be eaten which is stated plainly in the Torah.

Also, if you eat bad food, it effects you 100%. For example, if someone eats meat that is bad or eats the blood, they might wonder why, all of a sudden, they don't feel like praying or giving to charity. Plus, it helps the Jewish people financially and helps bring down the price for kosher meat so that more Jewish people will do right. In other words, you are doing a mitzva.

If you are a gentile, I would encourage you to eat only kosher meat. You will thank me for this when you go to be with Hashem. You can bank me on this.

[Yisrael]

If I'm not mistaking, Jimmy Sullivan only eats Kosher meat.

[Dr. Dan]

Ha!!!!!!!!!!!

They never served me kosher meat at public school.

Maybe if Jews had blown up some subways, the goverment would give us kosher food.

Amazing how the more monstrous and violent the Muslims become, the more rights and priveleges they recieve.

that's because they are stronger zealots of evil causes than we are zealots of righteous causes..eh..perhaps it will go in our favor in the future.

[Dr. Dan]

Okay in this context Halel is just like saying Kosher. Because kosher doesn't only mean food, but also dress, modesty, etc. But in this context (of food), then it means food.
   *- note Halel is not good enough for any Jew, this post is talking to Gentiles only.
Why I said that Halal is better then non-kosher non-Halal meat is because of different reasons.
 1- Other meat is made many times by either shooting or shocking an animal in the brain. Theirs problems in that becuase one- diseases like the mad cow disease came from this. Also when the animals throat is cut a gentile doesn't transgress no cruelty to animals, but if other ways like shooting it can be a problem (becuase if you shoot it a couple of times, you might be transgressing cruelty to animals (even if you are just the buyer).
also (not sure even about Halal meat) but in Koshering the meat, the meat has to be salted (in a given time 72 hours, unless it was frozen right away), but when in America for example this isn't done then those who buy meat eat the blood and worse eat all the waste thats in the animal (for sure urine, maybe even #2).
    Also not all Halal meat is cut by muslims, for example many of the Sefaradim who sheht the animal and it doesn't meet the right criteria for it to be acceptible, they then sell it to them and it is allowed by their standards. (expecially Beit Yosef meat, which is hard to allways get it right, and they dont sell it to other Jews, becuase they concider it not allowed for Jews when the lungs aren't 100% smooth.

Well Tzvi;

I do not know if our meat is unhealthy in comparison what muslim-halal meat is.
I do eat porc.
I do mix butter/cream/beef.

That's unkosher.

I would never buy from muslims, because, i boycott them , you see?
No vegetables from the Turk, no Pitta-kebab, no meat from the Algerian, nothing, niente, nada.

I have eaten if before, and I must say, I don't want to eat muslims-prepared food ever again.
Purely political issue. They are the enemy.

As i have never eaten kosher, I also have no idea, what that is in comparison with our meat.

Our animals are killed, and stored in a different way ?

Do you recommend me to eat kosher ? I will refuse Halal - rather eat nothing.

Are some people able to compare to difference in quality, for health-reasons, or taste?
Appart from that, what does the Thora say about people who don't follow the kosher way of preparing meals?

Thanks for your info.

my goal is to eat only kosher meat.

Halal is a way of Muslims copying the Jews in kashrut...which isn't a bad thing, but is a bad thing because the Muslims think they are authentic about their religion and all they are are copy cats (almost).

The quality of the meat may vary.  I feel better eating kosher because i know the animal was killed humanely and inspected properly. But what makes meat good is how it's cooked and if it is quality meat..so there can be poor quality kosher meat and good quality kosher meat.

[Shlomo]

If I'm not mistaking, Jimmy Sullivan only eats Kosher meat.

Yes, this is correct.

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

Halal just means a Muslim slaughtered it. Any Muslim can do so. But If I slaughtered an animal, the animal's meat would not be kosher because I'm not certified to slaughter kosher meat.

I think Muslims who will eat kosher meat if there is no Halal aren't following authentic Islam. I have some corn dogs in my freezer that are certified kosher and they also have a Halal symbol on them. Kosher means a specially trained Jew slaughtered it. So how could it be Halal if an infidel slaughtered it and not a Muslim? Those must be Reform Muslims.

 No not true. Just becuase we have problems with them doesn't mean we should make things like this up, or actually believe it. For a long time Sefardim have been selling meat to muslims, when it didn't meet the right Glat Kosher criteria and which was allowed for muslims (because Jewish law, expecially by meat for the Sefardim is much more stricter). Muslims did buy from Jews, and maybe still continue to (or maybe not, but I assume they do). 

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

One note expecially for Jews. What you eat affects you 100%. If one eats non-Kosher in whichever way or form (including outright non-Kosher like pork or meat that wasn't slaughtered properly, or bugs and worms in vegetables and fruits) Then it affects their soul and body and makes them spiritually dumb, lazy and not wanting and feeling the beauty of the Torah and Mitzvot (also maybe depression). When a chance of a Mitzva comes up, or learning a lecture, its no wonder that one doesn't want to listin to it, or feels going agains't it. And it can couse you to do even more sins and cause more damage to yourself.  The thing to do is to just stop right away.

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

THE IMPORTANCE OF KASHRUT OBSERVANCE AND THE SEVERITY OF THE PUNISHMENT FOR TRANSGRESSING THE LAWS SET FORTH IN THE TORAH AND THROUGH OUR RABBIS O.B.M.
Whosoever eats forbidden foods…
1) Is judged as a despised person since Hashem loathes him in this world and the world to come. (Zohar-part 111, 41.)
2) Defiles his soul (ibid) (Reishis Chochma)
3) Will suffer much since all of a man's suffering in this world is because he was not scrupulous in the observance of kashrut. (ibid, 42)
4) Attaches his soul to the forces of impurity and a spirit of defilement rests upon him. (Ibid)
5) Leaves the sphere of holiness and enters a sphere of impurity. (ibid, 42)
6) Woe unto him and woe unto his soul. He has not attached himself to those of the eternal life. (ibid, 41)
IT IS AS IF HE WORSHIPS IDOLS
7) Is as though he has a worshipped idols G-d forbid. (ibid,)
8 ) Has no part of the G-d of Israel (ibid, 41)
9) Will have his face take on the appearance of a wild animal. (Zohar part 11, 125)
10) Is as though his soul has left him and he remains a living corpse and is considered evil. (Chasam Sofer Parashat Shmini)
11) Has entered within him thoughts of atheism and heresy. (Rambam)
2 WARNING ON KASHRUT
12) Unintentionally defiles his soul; with intent – his soul becomes like that of a lizard. (Or Hachayim Shmini)

 (just a little from Israel613.com )

[Shlomo]

Seriously, if you are Jewish, you should at least try making steps towards eating kosher food.

I did it. You can do it. My absolute favorite used to be cheese burgers and jalapeno pepperoni pizza. Seriously, I used to say it was dumb to eat a hamburger without cheese on it. Now it's been 10 years since I ate that stuff. I don't even want it today. You couldn't pay me to eat it.

You can do it. Just start by trying to use only kosher meat. Just make a step forward. It's really not as bad and as difficult as people make it out to be.

[Ambiorix]

Halal just means a Muslim slaughtered it. Any Muslim can do so. But If I slaughtered an animal, the animal's meat would not be kosher because I'm not certified to slaughter kosher meat.

I think Muslims who will eat kosher meat if there is no Halal aren't following authentic Islam. I have some corn dogs in my freezer that are certified kosher and they also have a Halal symbol on them. Kosher means a specially trained Jew slaughtered it. So how could it be Halal if an infidel slaughtered it and not a Muslim? Those must be Reform Muslims.

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 No not true. Just becuase we have problems with them doesn't mean we should make things like this up, or actually believe it. For a long time Sefaradim have been selling meat to muslims, when it didn't meet the right Glat Kosher criteria and which was allowed for muslims (because Jewish law, expecially by meat for the Sefaradim is much more stricter). Muslims did buy from Jews, and maybe still continue to (or maybe not, but I assume they do). 

I am sure arabs eat kosher meat without a problem.

[JTFFan]

Halal just means a Muslim slaughtered it. Any Muslim can do so. But If I slaughtered an animal, the animal's meat would not be kosher because I'm not certified to slaughter kosher meat.

I think Muslims who will eat kosher meat if there is no Halal aren't following authentic Islam. I have some corn dogs in my freezer that are certified kosher and they also have a Halal symbol on them. Kosher means a specially trained Jew slaughtered it. So how could it be Halal if an infidel slaughtered it and not a Muslim? Those must be Reform Muslims.

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 No not true. Just becuase we have problems with them doesn't mean we should make things like this up, or actually believe it. For a long time Sefaradim have been selling meat to muslims, when it didn't meet the right Glat Kosher criteria and which was allowed for muslims (because Jewish law, expecially by meat for the Sefaradim is much more stricter). Muslims did buy from Jews, and maybe still continue to (or maybe not, but I assume they do). 

I am sure arabs eat kosher meat without a problem.

yes

[kellymaureen]

Halal just means a Muslim slaughtered it. Any Muslim can do so. But If I slaughtered an animal, the animal's meat would not be kosher because I'm not certified to slaughter kosher meat.

I think Muslims who will eat kosher meat if there is no Halal aren't following authentic Islam. I have some corn dogs in my freezer that are certified kosher and they also have a Halal symbol on them. Kosher means a specially trained Jew slaughtered it. So how could it be Halal if an infidel slaughtered it and not a Muslim? Those must be Reform Muslims.

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 No not true. Just becuase we have problems with them doesn't mean we should make things like this up, or actually believe it. For a long time Sefaradim have been selling meat to muslims, when it didn't meet the right Glat Kosher criteria and which was allowed for muslims (because Jewish law, expecially by meat for the Sefaradim is much more stricter). Muslims did buy from Jews, and maybe still continue to (or maybe not, but I assume they do). 

I am sure arabs eat kosher meat without a problem.

yes

They will damn well eat whatever food aid we send them ...though we shouldnt be sending any at all

[CorrieDeservedIt]

They should learn to bring their own lunches to school.
It's still a white country.

Not for long but it still is a white country.

[Kiwi]

They will damn well eat whatever food aid we send them ...though we shouldnt be sending any at all

Why send them food, let them eat their friggin oil