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Intermarriage Banning Poll + Lecture
Raulmarrio2000:
I oppose intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles. Banning it? It's already banned by the Torah!!!!! Banning it by civil law? It would be right but....how?
Who is a Jew in the eyes of Goyshe authorities? To ban intermarriage and punish it by secular Goyshe govts, those Govts and all its officials should accept the orthodox definition of who is a Jew. That implies that they must become all pure Noahides, that all other religions must be outlawed. It's a difficult issue.
Up till 2004, Let-be-land was strictly forbidden to deal with any foreign nation which allowed intermarriage or allowed parents to bring up Jewish children not according to Torah. That clause was dropped when the Constitution was enacted. It was impossible to demand a foreign Gentile Govt. to make the hallachic distinction between a real Jew and an invalid convert!
Maccabi:
hmmm.
In Israel maybe. In USA no.
I also think if a guy wants to marry a non-Jewish woman who is a gentile (if she doesn't worship any idols or isn't into pushing any new age stuff), that it shouldn't be too hard for her to convert.
Ehud:
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--- Quote from: Cohen on January 19, 2008, 08:22:49 PM ---I don't support intermarriage, I myself won't intermarry but that is a individuals decision so I voted no.
EDIT: I thought this was about interracial marriage, change my vote to yes.
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But your not Jewish, if I remember correctly, unless im mistaking you with someone else.
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My mothers Jewish (German Catholic originally, converted Orthodox), and my father was Jewish (hence my last name). I don't know why people keep asking this, I guess i'll have to scan my circumcision certificate.
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Because I belive that you posted some time ago that your mothers not Jewish, I dont know. Does your mother keep all the Mitzvot applicable for a Jewish women? and are you religious?
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I'm not religious (as in attend synagogue since there isn't one here), I don't know what my mother practices now, but some of the members may have gotten the wrong impression because I had mentioned my mother was of German background so they may have assumed that meant she wasn't Jewish? I don't think she currently considers herself Jewish but at the time of her conversion before she had kids, that would have made me Jewish.
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Shul is one thing, but not to offend you, you have to check very well with a Kosher Orthodox court, to determine your status of being Jewish or not. This is very important expecially when it will come to marriage, etc.
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Why would my Jewishness be in question if my mother converted Orthodox?
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Because someone who converted Beemet (in Truth) wouldn't then not keep the laws. This might retroactivly invalidate the conversion, but im not a Rav, so I wont pass the judgement, but you should definitly go to a Jewish court/ or valid Rav, and tell the whole story from A to Z, asap.
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I've heard of the retroactive invalidation as far as the MOTHER is concerned, but does the retroactive invalidation affect her offspring as well? I remember there was a controversial case that invalidated the conversion of the mother, and that those types of decisions are quite rare.
I find it hard to believe that there could be an invalidation of a woman's offspring, after he or she was Jewish for many, many years.
About the "in truth" conversion, is the fact that a woman stops observing the laws after converting automatic and conclusive evidence that she did not intend to convert in truth to begin with, or does this just tend to show a presumption that she never intended to keep the laws to begin with?
If a woman converts legitimately to Judaism, does the fact that she stops adhering to the laws after her children are born automatically make them non-Jewish (if they don't convert)?
Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks:
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on January 19, 2008, 08:26:34 PM ---I didn't make a poll, but this thread was put by me so that Jews would watch that important video. So its religious intermarriage specifically for Jews.
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Then I am completely against it.
Kiwi:
--- Quote from: Boyana on January 20, 2008, 02:20:11 AM ---Many Jewish people adopt a child!Is it Jewish if ,child became good and honest Jewish person?
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That i can answer, and yes they do O0
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