Nazi memorabilia

[Kiwi]

Due to a questions raised by Boere in the Australiain New Zealand section, I have thought about it and chosen to ask the forum.

Boeres option on the subject its not a Neo Nazi act to have the items or display them in public.

I 100% disagree, thinking only reason why you would have the items, is for Anti Semite reasons.

What are your thoughts.

[Ari]

Not acceptable.  Items should be destroyed.  I think they are outlawed in Germany and Austria, but unfortunately are still sold underground.

[Kiwi]

Not acceptable.  Items should be destroyed.  I think they are outlawed in Germany and Austria, but unfortunately are still sold underground.

They were openly sold here in Australia

http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=15118.0

[Ari]

Not good, Skippy.  By the way, how do Australians feel about Jews generally.  Is there a strong current of anti-Semitism or not?

[Kiwi]

In General Australians are Pro Jews.

Its the New Australians that come and bring their hate to this country, that cause the problems.

Great example is the Australian Open and the Racism there.

[Kiwi]

I think they should be preserved for historical reasons, like "black Americana" is collected today for historical reasons.

I need to be honest here and admit that I don't personally find mammy cookie jars or lawn jockeys offensive (I think both are fairly innocent).

Some such objects were truly hateful, such as prints of a cartoon showing a black child drinking ink with the caption "n milk", or objects that portray blacks as looking more like monkeys than humans.

Both sets of objects are now heavily collected by blacks as part of their own history here in America. They consider them to be a painful chapter of the past, but one that should not be forgotten.

Nazi memorabilia might be collected and displayed by neo nazis in order to promote nazi ideas or show solidarity with nazis, and I certainly don't like this use of the objects. Non-Nazis may have a valid interest in collecting it and displaying it.

A museum might display objects from Nazi Europe in order to give insight into what happened in the past and to educate museum patrons about the war and about the Nazi party.

I could even see why some Jews would want to collect these items (and I've heard some might do just that) not to destroy them, but to keep the memory of what happened alive so as not to allow it to reoccur.

So displaying the items in a cafe is acceptable?

[Rubystars]

So displaying the items in a cafe is acceptable?

That's too casual of an environment for something that serious. I was thinking more of a museum, or a parent showing their children or grandchildren the objects and telling them the story behind them and what they should try to do to keep people like that from coming to power.

[Boeregeneraal]

ofcourse it's UNACCEPTABLE!!!
I think you totally misunderstood my views Skippy. I am TOTALLY with BP's decision to get the stock of he shelves, of course! Where my point lay, is that I don't believe just because they withdrew the items when the heat was on, that they are "pro-Jewish"

[Kiwi]

If you support a removing of objects, that would deep offend people you are Pro that people. Its not just playing nice its empathy.

[Boeregeneraal]

If you support a removing of objects, that would deep offend people you are Pro that people. Its not just playing nice its empathy.

but then, the nazi wackos would know that their bp comrades have no other choice. Besides, if they don't remove it, bP would be closd as fast as a Mamba's strike!

(scenario)

[Kiwi]

If you support a removing of objects, that would deep offend people you are Pro that people. Its not just playing nice its empathy.

but then, the nazi wackos would know that their bp comrades have no other choice. Besides, if they don't remove it, bP would be closd as fast as a Mamba's strike!

(scenario)

I kinda wonder why they did it in the first place.

[Boeregeneraal]

If you support a removing of objects, that would deep offend people you are Pro that people. Its not just playing nice its empathy.

but then, the nazi wackos would know that their bp comrades have no other choice. Besides, if they don't remove it, bP would be closd as fast as a Mamba's strike!

(scenario)

I kinda wonder why they did it in the first place.

ja exactly!

oh well, i better be off, i have to write an essay on how Globalisation contributes to Terrorism

[MassuhDGoodName]

Nazi swastikas are imbued with tremendous evil and serve as a portal to occult worlds.

If you don't believe it just watch how people become transfixed when they see a swastika.

Since the beginning of time, the swastika has been a mystical symbol throughout the world.

The original pre-Vedic swastika of ancient India represents the Sun with all of its creative energies, and appears to us as if it is drawn backwards.

Also called "The Sun Wheel", it is considered to be spinning clockwise in accord with the positive attributes of the Sun --growth, renewal, rebirth.

Hitler, when he adapted the ancient sun wheel of India for his insignia, turned the swastika around so that it is spinning counter clockwise, thus representing the growth and rebirth of occultic dark powers of destruction and death.

It is not possible to study history without seeing Nazi emblems, but every decent human being should consider them more obscene than pornography, and they should never be publicly displayed; not even for political protest or costume parties.

[Daniel]

I think it's socially and morally unacceptable to collect and/or display Nazi material. But on a legal level, it's a bit more complicated. It may be legal to a certain extent to do this in the spirit of freedom of speech and expression. But it's not as simple since the issue of incitement also plays into the legal picture. So the judges and legal experts would need to sort all this out and weigh and balance the rights of people to engage in their first amendment rights and the dangers that incitement can cause.

[Ultra Requete]

Yes for historicall reasons in museums, or if someone is reaserching this times... But  MassuhDGoodName  is right they're ocult dangerous items, its like hearing Hitler speaches you can be swayed or hexed like Mussolini was, Franco proved to be immune becouse he was beliving person, Hitler told that talking with Franco was like being operated by dentist; that saved Spain and Spanish Jews.