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« on: January 20, 2008, 06:03:56 AM »
YNET calls them marranos they don'nt like that name             

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3496338,00.html

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Marranos come home


New phenomenon sweeps Portugal: Descendants of Marranos rediscover their Jewish roots and the Jewish faith. One Porto community undergoes mass conversion

Gabi Newman Published:  01.20.08, 09:59 / Israel Jewish Scene 




Yosef Pero Philip is professor psychiatry at the University of Porto. Arieh Ben Avraham is a renowned film director. Yosef Eduardo Albas is a soccer player in Portugal’s Second Division. All three men have recently converted to Judaism, observe the mitzvoth, and are distinctly proud of their Jewish heritage.

 

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These three men are also representative of a noticeable recent trend among descendants of Spanish and Portuguese Marranos, that is Sefardic Jews forced to adopt the identity of Christians, who are now rediscovering their Jewish faith and reclaiming their ancient heritage en masse.

 

Rabbi Eliyahu Birnbaum of the “Shavei Israel” Foundation, which oversees the conversion process among these Marrano descendants, said that over the years individual Marranos have converted to Judaism , but now, thanks to the foundation’s efforts, entire communities of Marrano offspring are converting to Judaism and reclaiming their ancient heritage.

 

“If you asked people in Israel, they would probably tell you that Marranos are merely a blurb on the annals of history, but here we see definitive proof that people still view themselves as Marranos and children of Marranos, and that this is a very real, spiritual phenomenon,” said Rabbi Birnbaum.

 

Indeed, many Portuguese are now becoming reacquainted with their Jewish lineage. Aaron Ram, Israel’s Ambassador to Portugal, told Ynet that “when people find out that I’m the Israeli ambassador, many end up telling me that they are Jewish, or rather that they are of Jewish descent. Many of these Marranos are not Jewish anymore, nor do they intend to convert, but they nevertheless mention their heritage with great pride. I would say that 10% of all Portuguese are offspring of Marranos of Jewish descent.”

 

 
What led to this spiritual reawakening among these former Jews? The waning power of the church in both Spain and Portugal is a definite factor leading to this trend, as is the quest for belonging and identity so prevalent around the world today.

 

The Marano descendants in question tend to come from a high socio-economic background, and are typically well integrated into the Christian society that they live in. They claim that their return to their Jewish heritage does not invoke scorn or hatred in their peers, and that they are typically applauded for their resolve and bravery.

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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2008, 10:53:01 PM »
marrano in spanish means pig  :D
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2008, 11:12:44 AM »
marrano in spanish means pig  :D
yes i know :)
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2008, 02:41:16 PM »
I'll take them.  We need all the help we can get. O0

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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2008, 02:43:49 PM »
marrano in spanish means pig  :D

So it is a derogatory word for Jews?

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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2008, 02:48:14 PM »
how much % of the Spanish and Portugese were in fact converted Jews at the time after the Reconquista?


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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2008, 03:01:16 PM »
It's a good slap in the face for Torqemada and Rome! :)

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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2008, 07:43:39 PM »
how much % of the Spanish and Portugese were in fact converted Jews at the time after the Reconquista?



Spaniards have a split personality they don'nt particularly like Jews but 1 in 3 will say they have Jewish roots.In Southwest they say as much as 20% of hispanics are conversios
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2008, 12:45:18 AM »
By the way, do you have any idea what this will do for the Israeli National soccer team? O0

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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2008, 04:39:31 AM »
Yes, after many years Conversos feel their roots calling to them. They will make their ancestors proud.
Imagine the Jews who were forcibly converted and or were killed, how many had the hope that their children would not forget who they are. Well, now many of their descendants are awaking to the fact that they are long lost children on conversos.
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But they look European even the conversios from the U.S. they look like they came from Spain they don'nt resemble Mexican Indians   Jews from Portugal        http://www.vodeo.tv/4-33-1875-les-derniers-marranes.html?PARTID=9085&visu=1875
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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2008, 06:45:39 AM »
I think this is conversos in Spain                        http://www.youtube.com/user/Lakaramba2006
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