Is Imerica a troll?

[admin]

Absolutely. All she does is argue with JTFers.

[Dr. Dan]

Absolutely. All she does is argue with JTFers.

she does, but also with irrational postings by JTFers such as banning Valentine's day...

[Tina Greco - Melbourne]

no

[Just Erica]

Absolutely. All she does is argue with JTFers.

she does, but also with irrational postings by JTFers such as banning Valentine's day...

Just so you know I voted the second option, not to ban her.

If you voted against banning me, why even make a poll asking if I'm a troll? Is it a requirement for everyone here to agree on every subject, Yacov?

[Ulli]

No, because she mean, what she said. But I remember, that she said some things that I fundamentally dislike.

[Just Erica]

No, because she mean, what she said. But I remember, that she said some things that I fundamentally dislike.

And that's perfectly alright, Golden.

[Ehud]

She's sort of a troll.  Sometimes it's hard to tell whether her questions are serious or whether they are due to the ability to understand something.  Like in your "banning dancing poll" how she asked whether celebrating graduations is banned for Jews, and asked whether she was "going to hell in a handbasket" for enjoying dancing after you made it crystal clear that you weren't talking about gentiles. 

This can come across as trolling, but I think that she makes these comments due to her inability to understand some things.  Such as, not knowing that different rules apply to Jews and gentiles after she's been on a Jewish forum for many many months....  That almost seems to me to be one of the first things that any Christian gentile would understand after visiting a forum such as this one. 

She's not a troll for disagreeing, disagreement is fine and doens't make you a troll, but she could be a troll for purposely asking provocative and poorly thought out metaphors and ideas.  I still don't know whether she's serious about these types of questions or whether she asks them to stir things up.  I'm leaning towards the former though. 

[Just Erica]

Absolutely. All she does is argue with JTFers.

she does, but also with irrational postings by JTFers such as banning Valentine's day...

Just so you know I voted the second option, not to ban her.

If you voted against banning me, why even make a poll asking if I'm a troll? Is it a requirement for everyone here to agree on every subject, Yacov?

But you don't agree with us on any subjects.

Absolutely nothing, Yacov? Be specific.

[Tina Greco - Melbourne]

Absolutely. All she does is argue with JTFers.

she does, but also with irrational postings by JTFers such as banning Valentine's day...

Just so you know I voted the second option, not to ban her.

If you voted against banning me, why even make a poll asking if I'm a troll? Is it a requirement for everyone here to agree on every subject, Yacov?

Not a requirement.

[Just Erica]

She's sort of a troll.  Sometimes it's hard to tell whether her questions are serious or whether they are due to the ability to understand something.  Like in your "banning dancing poll" how she asked whether celebrating graduations is banned for Jews, and asked whether she was "going to hell in a handbasket" for enjoying dancing after you made it crystal clear that you weren't talking about gentiles. 

This can come across as trolling, but I think that she makes these comments due to her inability to understand some things.  Such as, not knowing that different rules apply to Jews and gentiles after she's been on a Jewish forum for many many months....  That almost seems to me to be one of the first things that any Christian gentile would understand after visiting a forum such as this one. 

She's not a troll for disagreeing, disagreement is fine and doens't make you a troll, but she could be a troll for purposely asking provocative and poorly thought out metaphors and ideas.  I still don't know whether she's serious about these types of questions or whether she asks them to stir things up.  I'm leaning towards the former though. 

And yet it's okay for Yacov to make dumb polls asking if certain Happy holidays, events, or even dates on the calendar should be banned?

And a troll does things like track other people down just to insult them, create different polls based on whether a member should be banned or not, or call a person names just because they don't agree with you.

[Ehud]

She's sort of a troll.  Sometimes it's hard to tell whether her questions are serious or whether they are due to the ability to understand something.  Like in your "banning dancing poll" how she asked whether celebrating graduations is banned for Jews, and asked whether she was "going to hell in a handbasket" for enjoying dancing after you made it crystal clear that you weren't talking about gentiles. 

This can come across as trolling, but I think that she makes these comments due to her inability to understand some things.  Such as, not knowing that different rules apply to Jews and gentiles after she's been on a Jewish forum for many many months....  That almost seems to me to be one of the first things that any Christian gentile would understand after visiting a forum such as this one. 

She's not a troll for disagreeing, disagreement is fine and doens't make you a troll, but she could be a troll for purposely asking provocative and poorly thought out metaphors and ideas.  I still don't know whether she's serious about these types of questions or whether she asks them to stir things up.  I'm leaning towards the former though. 

And yet it's okay for Yacov to make dumb polls asking if certain Happy holidays, events, or even dates on the calendar should be banned?

And a troll does things like track other people down just to insult them, create different polls based on whether a member should be banned or not, or call a person names just because they don't agree with you.

I know that you don't do trollish things, but frankly it's not really your place to call his polls dumb because you don't know anything about Judaism.  You especially need not respond to his threads when he specifically tells gentiles that the topic doesn't apply to them.  It's legitimate to ask whether Thanksgiving, or Proms, etc. should be banned for Jews from a Torah and Halachic perspective.  If you don't know anything about the topic as it pertains to Judaism, you probably shouldn't respond to it.
 

[Just Erica]

She's sort of a troll.  Sometimes it's hard to tell whether her questions are serious or whether they are due to the ability to understand something.  Like in your "banning dancing poll" how she asked whether celebrating graduations is banned for Jews, and asked whether she was "going to hell in a handbasket" for enjoying dancing after you made it crystal clear that you weren't talking about gentiles. 

This can come across as trolling, but I think that she makes these comments due to her inability to understand some things.  Such as, not knowing that different rules apply to Jews and gentiles after she's been on a Jewish forum for many many months....  That almost seems to me to be one of the first things that any Christian gentile would understand after visiting a forum such as this one. 

She's not a troll for disagreeing, disagreement is fine and doens't make you a troll, but she could be a troll for purposely asking provocative and poorly thought out metaphors and ideas.  I still don't know whether she's serious about these types of questions or whether she asks them to stir things up.  I'm leaning towards the former though. 

And yet it's okay for Yacov to make dumb polls asking if certain Happy holidays, events, or even dates on the calendar should be banned?

And a troll does things like track other people down just to insult them, create different polls based on whether a member should be banned or not, or call a person names just because they don't agree with you.

I know that you don't do trollish things, but frankly it's not really your place to call his polls dumb because you don't know anything about Judaism.  You especially need not respond to his threads when he specifically tells gentiles that the topic doesn't apply to them.  It's legitimate to ask whether Thanksgiving, or Proms, etc. should be banned for Jews from a Torah and Halachic perspective.  If you don't know anything about the topic as it pertains to Judaism, you probably shouldn't respond to it.
 

I see Jewish people here (not everyone) calling Yacov's polls pointless. So it's not just me, Ze'ev. But I understand what you're saying. However those threads usually turn into "NO ONE should do this..." threads.

[Ulli]

Yakov has for all banning questions a reason. If I remember righly the most banning polls belong to Jews, because this is mainly a Jewish forum.

------sorry-------

[Just Erica]

Yacov, what is it that I don't agree with, besides the names that some of you call blacks "Affirmative Action Hires", "Monkeys", "Porch Monkeys", "Darkie".... Be specific please.

[newman]

She ignores statistical reality and deflects issues.

When we mention the high rates of black crime she says......"but whites do that, too!" (ignoring the huge statistical disparity in black rates of criminality compared to whites.

When we mention bastard babies in the black community she deflects the issue with..."But I don' do dat!"

[Dan]

No, she's an opinionated black woman... a lot of which doesn't resonate with JTF!

[cjd]

No, she's an opinionated black woman... a lot of which doesn't resonate with JTF!

I agree!

[Johnson Brown]

Absolutely. All she does is argue with JTFers.

She is good for the forum, what do you want just a Yes Yes forum?

[Just Erica]

Absolutely. All she does is argue with JTFers.

She is good for the forum, what do you want just a Yes Yes forum?

They want me to say things like "Yas'suh boss... I's be believin' ever'thang you say! Won't me to shine yo boots?! I is a good fo nuthin darkie. Forgive me! "

Sorry, I don't operate like that.

[Boeregeneraal]

Absolutely. All she does is argue with JTFers.

She is good for the forum, what do you want just a Yes Yes forum?

mmm...black standing up for fellow black...

YES!!!!!

I don't get how JTFers can welcome this person, whom calls Our Heroic Chaim a "terrorist", and his actions "terroristic". This makes me sick!!!!
Wake up JTFers!

[newman]

Absolutely. All she does is argue with JTFers.

She is good for the forum, what do you want just a Yes Yes forum?

They want me to say things like "Yas'suh boss... I's be believin' ever'thang you say! Won't me to shine yo boots?! I is a good fo nuthin darkie. Forgive me! "

I love it when you talk that way!

Can you do the mammy thing and say........."Oooooooo, you is BAD, Mr Rhett!"

[Boeregeneraal]

oh and erica, if you have a problem with what our wonderful members are doing...then what on earth are you doing here!!!!

[Just Erica]

oh and erica, if you have a problem with what our wonderful members are doing...then what on earth are you doing here!!!!

Like I said, I'm here because it's  a free country. I'm also here because I noticed a trend. People create forums based on their anger toward certain groups of people. I'm here to stand up for good black people everywhere. There are a lot of problems in the black community, yes but if I focused on all of the bad things happening there, I'd be a miserable person with no hopes and dreams for the future of my own kids' futures...or even my own. Biggotry has to stop in order for there to be any progress in the world.

[Ambiorix]

oh and erica, if you have a problem with what our wonderful members are doing...then what on earth are you doing here!!!!

Like I said, I'm here because it's  a free country. I'm also here because I noticed a trend. People create forums based on their anger toward certain groups of people. I'm here to stand up for good black people everywhere. There are a lot of problems in the black community, yes but if I focused on all of the bad things happening there, I'd be a miserable person with no hopes and dreams for the future of my own kids' futures...or even my own. Biggotry has to stop in order for there to be any progress in the world.

Are there some forums with good black people, that try to convince some evil blacks to become good ones?
Untill blacks become a majority righteous people,
 you have no change of winning the hearths and minds of some of us here.

[Just Erica]

oh and erica, if you have a problem with what our wonderful members are doing...then what on earth are you doing here!!!!

Like I said, I'm here because it's  a free country. I'm also here because I noticed a trend. People create forums based on their anger toward certain groups of people. I'm here to stand up for good black people everywhere. There are a lot of problems in the black community, yes but if I focused on all of the bad things happening there, I'd be a miserable person with no hopes and dreams for the future of my own kids' futures...or even my own. Biggotry has to stop in order for there to be any progress in the world.

Are there some forums with good black people, that try to convince some evil blacks to become good ones?
Untill blacks become a majority righteous people,
 you have no change of winning the hearths and minds of some of us here.

That sounds like a personal problem. You can't see 10 ft in front of you because your hatred is in the way. That's why we have so much bigotry in our country and abroad. People hate anything they don't understand. And when they find that there is good somewhere, they don't want to be happy about it, they want to make more light of the bad in something so they'll have something to talk about.

I can't change you no more than you can change evil blacks into good blacks, but don't sh*& on good blacks for actually doing something to help out their community.