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Should Jews Participate In Senior Proms?
Just Erica:
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--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on January 28, 2008, 06:02:25 PM ---I don't think male-female interdancing is prohibited for Gentiles so this question is strictly for Jews.
I think they should be banned and I'm very grateful I never went to the one my high school had. I was never into that nonsense even when I did believe in male-female interdancing. I knew I'm Jewish and that "proms" are not a Jewish thing.
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NO. They shouldn't be banned. And just for the record, Proms aren't a Christian thing either. Its a celebration of a class graduating from High school and becoming young adults!
And interdancing... Yacov, stop picking on celebrations that actually make others happy.
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If it's immodest, I don't care who it makes happy.
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I agree some can be very eye opening.
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What the prom, itself or some of the prom dresses?
Dr. Dan:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on January 28, 2008, 06:06:42 PM ---So Torah observant Jews are now "losers and degenerates"?
The rabbis already banned it in The Talmud as a fence around The Torah I believe.
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No, Torah observant Jews are not losers or degenerates..but these banning polls are beginning to make you look like one...Ban going to the prom for yourself, but don't ruin it for everyone else who wants to go and those who go purely for the fun of it and not sexual reasons... Not everything is tied to sex..maybe to you it is because you are deprived, but that's not either here nor there.
personally, I went with my close friend and we didnt' drink or do the whole limo thing. We went out to lunch the next day and went to Central park
no sex, no kissing no nothing...and we had a nice time bonding. She's currently married with two children.
and i know plenty of people who go with their friends..It's a fun thing for seniors in highschool...and if there are Jews going to public school we hope that their parents are teaching them to behave and not give into peer pressure. Those that go and have sex and get drunk and do drugs are the evil ones..not if a curious boy wants to dance with a girl..There is nothing evil about that...
Dr. Dan:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on January 28, 2008, 06:26:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: Skippy on January 28, 2008, 06:20:35 PM ---We never had them, but who cares, its not a religious thing, of course Jews should go.
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I only went to once "dance" in my lifetime and it was from Hebrew School. I didn't have a good time anyway because all the girls had dates so I had no one to dance with anyway.
They called it a "Confirmation dance" because many self-hating Jews have "Confirmations" when they are 15 so they had it for the 10th Graders at my Hebrew School because it was a "community Hebrew School" and not part of one movement so they had to cater to the Deformed people who have Christian celebrations ("Confirmations") disguised as Jewish celebrations in their Deformed synagogues. I never had one and I only went to the dance because I wasn't modest yet then and I wanted to dance with women for lustful reasons. Now I know it is wrong to want to dance with women other than my wife and I regret attending. Maybe G-d punished me for it by making me not have a good time but actually He was probably blessing me by preventing me from sinning. The dance was in a ballroom at a Deform synagogue. I think they had a disco ball hanging from the ceiling and I didn't see the part of the building where the Deforms pray in.
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That must explain your bitterness of proms and valentine's day...
Dr. Dan:
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--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on January 28, 2008, 06:02:25 PM ---I don't think male-female interdancing is prohibited for Gentiles so this question is strictly for Jews.
I think they should be banned and I'm very grateful I never went to the one my high school had. I was never into that nonsense even when I did believe in male-female interdancing. I knew I'm Jewish and that "proms" are not a Jewish thing.
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NO. They shouldn't be banned. And just for the record, Proms aren't a Christian thing either. Its a celebration of a class graduating from High school and becoming young adults!
And interdancing... Yacov, stop picking on celebrations that actually make others happy.
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Proms might not be Christian but they are Gentile and go against Jewish tradition.
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So it's sinful in the Jewish religion to celebrate graduating from High school?
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No but it is sinful to dance with members of the opposite sex unless it is your spouse and in private.
Once again you are showing your "brilliant" affirmative action "logic".
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You are the one seeking to ban fun from people's lives. But I'm showing "affirmative action" logic? What does that mean, anyway, Yacov? I attend a Marine Corps ball with my husband every year and enjoy dancing with my friends AND with my husband. I guess I'm going to hell in a handbasket, huh? ::)
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I said this only applies for Jews. But are your friends that you are dancing with men? If so, it is adultery and even Gentiles shouldn't do that.
Affirmative action logic is the inability to comprehend basic things.
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It's adultary if you haev sex or come close to it and do somethign intimate...
Dancing is hardly intimate in my culture...but one can make it that way if they make it their intention.
Dr. Dan:
--- Quote from: jdl4ever on January 28, 2008, 07:07:08 PM ---This is not a simple question as you think. We are not allowed to impose restrictions on our fellow Jews on things that may be technically allowed Rabbinically and Biblically. This voilates the Torah prohibition of going to the right of what the Torah teaches. Although many religious Jews including me and everyone on this forum don't think it is propper to dance with a single girl and every Rabbi will tell you that it is not propper to do so (and the Jews of old didn't do this), if you investigate the matter, this is going beyond the letter of the law to those that adhere to the Rambam and the Ramban and it is really not violating any Rabbinical or Biblical ruling so we can not make it forbidden, we can just discourage it. This is especially pertinant to Baal Tshuva's and Baal Tshuvah Yeshivas that try to bring close not religious Jews. These Jews want to have a prom and look forward to it and having one will bring them closer to Judaism since they will like the School and not think the religious are fanatics.
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So wise...love it!
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