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Blue-eyed people share single ancestor living 10,000 years ago: study
kellymaureen:
Thats amazing!
My moms whole family are blue eyed, my sister, brother and myself are as well, really amazing story.
Vito:
--- Quote from: KellyMaureen on January 31, 2008, 01:44:19 PM ---Thats amazing!
My moms whole family are blue eyed, my sister, brother and myself are as well, really amazing story.
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Yes Kel, you definitely look like you're of Azerbaijani descent lol
Masha:
About Jews and blond hair:
--- Quote ---We are an ancient group of clans descended from 13 polygamous men, and our genetic history is part of the redefinition of humanity... 'Blonde genes occur in Middle Eastern groups as well,' he [Ostrer] explains. 'There is no evidence that white skin and blue eyes originated in northern Europe. That is a Nordic myth. Semitic people had the whole range.'...
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Go to this page that has links to articles discussing the results of Jewish genetics studies.
http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/abstracts-jews.html
I'm just tired of hearing that Jews have blond hair because of rapes. This is simply not true. There is also such a theory as "genetic drift" that says that certain changes may occur in isolated groups so that with time they begin to differ from each other. It doesn't mean that they were raped or intermarried. the changes occurred by themselves.
Dexter:
Of course it was because of rapes and mixing, I don't say there were no Jews with blond hair and blue eyes befor the Greeks and the Romans came, but it was much much less than it was after that.
Masha:
--- Quote from: Dexter on January 31, 2008, 03:50:29 PM ---Of course it was because of rapes and mixing, I don't say there were no Jews with blond hair and blue eyes befor the Greeks and the Romans came, but it was much much less than it was after that.
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Dexter, do you have a problem with reading comprehension or are you a specialist in populatiional genetics? Do you know more than the geneticist I quoted? Go read the articles that are linked and you will see that the admixture of Slavic and Germanic genes in the Ashkenazi DNA was small.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_ethnic_divisions
--- Quote ---Before the holocaust 30% of German Jews were blonde as were 25% of British Jews.
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Considering that blondness is a recessive trait, to have it prevalent in 30% of the population means that a huge percentage had German admixture (if one attributes blondness solely to German genes). Clearly, this is insane. This does not make sense. Obviously, there were Jewish genes for blondness among Ashkenazi Jews that originated both in the Middle East, as Ostrer says, as well as through the well-known phenomenon of genetic drift, i.e. later self-origination.
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