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Kosovo's independence strengthens Russia's influence...
Ultra Requete:
Russia will not lift finger to help Serbia over Kosowo, especialy now when Putin is going to build new oil and gas Northern Pipeline with the help of the Germans who are urging entire EU to adopt united policy over Kosowo. For Russians the good relations with France and Germany are more important than small, poor and remote Serbia. They will witdrew their verbal support as soon as NATO and EU will stop supporting Ukraine and Georgia aspirations.
JR-Obilic:
Not true, the Russians have given us MANY weapons and have supported us since 1991 and before. Wehn America was supporting the same Jihadists they are supposedly opposed to now. And as far as pipelines:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/22/world/main3736893.shtml?source=RSSattr=World_3736893
(AP) Serbia agreed Tuesday to a multibillion dollar gas pipeline project as part of an energy deal with Russia that would boost Moscow's control over supplies to Europe.
A majority stake of the Serbian oil monopoly NIS will be sold to Russian energy giant Gazprom and Russia will route part of the gas pipeline through Serbia. A Serbian government statement announcing the deal did not reveal the financial terms. The deal is to be signed in Moscow on Friday.
Serbia endorsed the deal just days after Russian President Vladimir Putin won Bulgaria's support for the project, known as the South Stream pipeline, which further dashes the European Union's hopes of reducing its growing energy reliance on Russia.
Russia promised to extend the pipeline into Serbia and build a huge gas storage facility in the north of the country, to turn the Balkan nation into a major hub for Russian energy supplies to Europe.
But the pipeline deal with Serbia apparently comes at a price. Some Serbian officials said that Russia's initial offer of $600 million (400 million euros) for a 51 percent stake in NIS represented just one-fifth of the company's market value.
Gazprom and Serbian officials have haggled over terms, triggering infighting in the Serbian Cabinet. It was not clear if Russia bettered the offer, but the small pro-Western G-17 party said Tuesday the terms of the deal are still unfavorable to Serbia.
Belgrade has turned increasingly away from the West and toward Russia, which supports Serbia's refusal to accept independence for its southern province of Kosovo.
Serbia's nationalist prime minister, Vojislav Kostunica, who pushed hard for the contract with Moscow, said the "strategic" deal with Russia will give Serbia a reliable supply of energy "for the coming decades."
Serbian Foreign Minister Vuk Jeremic said in neighboring Romania on Tuesday that "it is an important strategic deal that has to do with securing energy supplies to Serbia ... and the rest of the Western Balkans."
Kostunica has denied accusations by the opposition that favorable terms for Russia in the deal amounted to payback for Moscow's support over Kosovo.
"The deal is the direct result of an agreement between Russian and Serbian politicians, with Kostunica and his people standing to make political gains over it," said Misa Brkic, a Serbian economic analyst.
He and other analysts also said that the main pro-Western faction within Kostunica's Cabinet, the Democratic Party, dropped its opposition to the deal because it needs the prime minister's support if its candidate, incumbent President Boris Tadic, is to defeat an ultranationalist challenger in the country's runoff presidential vote on Feb. 3.
South Stream was announced last year by OAO Gazprom, Russia's state gas monopoly, and Italy's ENI SpA, which set up a joint venture to study the 550-mile, $10 billion (6.8 billion euros) pipeline project.
South Stream would run under the Black Sea from Russia to Bulgaria, and from there could split off in several directions: north through Hungary to reach Austria, south through Greece and on to Otranto, a port near the southeastern tip of Italy, and west to Serbia.
Gazprom's policies, and the Kremlin's confrontational approach to the West, have raised fears that Russia, and even Serbia, would use their control of energy supplies to the West for political leverage - threatening to cut off countries that oppose their policies, and rewarding those that support them.
South Stream would undercut the parallel Nabucco pipeline project - sponsored by the United States and the European Union - and dash the EU's hopes of reducing its growing reliance on Russia, which now supplies up to 40 percent of Europe's gas and up to a third of the oil imports of some European countries.
Ultra Requete:
So I'm right it's not about Serbia but oil, The Russia Iran and Wenezueala are against US, Mexico, EU and Saudi Barbaria. Both sides are wiling to make diabolic pacts with muslimes to secure the energy resources.... and more important the profits for their oil companies pays the politicians. JTF is right to advocate the use of alternative energy sources.
JR-Obilic:
It's not just about oil. Racially, Serbs and Russians are both slavic and we share the same religion. This is the main reason for our brotherhood. Just look at our flags, we both share the double headed eagle. Also, that they supported us through all our wars and gave us weapons and money, even when they were much poorer then they are now. This was way before any oil deals. They also vetoed against Albanian Kosovo in the UN. Let me put it this way, if Russia was in the position US is in right now none of this fukery would be happening to us Serbs, i guarantee u that. It's the Muslim and Catholic nazis that want to destroy Serbs, Russians are friends of Serbia and if it wasn't for them Hitler would probably be ruling Europe today.
Gruzinit:
While the Slavic relations between Russia and Serbia have been strengthened, it finally has the oppurtunity to promote a strong Pan-Slavic movement that has been as strong since prior to WWI.
Despite its resentment towards Russia, Georgia will be equally converned about what's going on in the Balkans. Abkhazia and South Ossetia, two provinces that have broken away from Georgia,leading to a bloody and violent war, will use the Kosovo precedent to demand recognition as independent nations, since the currently have defacto status.
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