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Why do you need Kosher salt?
OdKahaneChai:
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--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on February 24, 2008, 10:33:58 PM ---
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--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on February 24, 2008, 09:35:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on February 21, 2008, 11:31:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on February 21, 2008, 08:43:11 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on February 21, 2008, 02:03:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: angryChineseKahanist on February 21, 2008, 01:57:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: David Ben Ze'ev Aryeh on February 21, 2008, 01:49:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: angryChineseKahanist on February 21, 2008, 09:45:15 AM ---Why do you need Kosher salt?
What's the difference between Kosher salt (NaCl) and non Kosher salt (NaCl)?
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All salt is Kosher the reason why it is called "Kosher Salt" is because even after the the Animal had been slautered it is not kosher until the Blood is removed entirelly and Salt removes the blood
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I don't understand how you can remove all the animal's blood.
I don't think it's possible to remove all of the animal's blood perfectly.
So, some blood is still there.
Ever heard of kosher pork or kosher ham?
Many years ago I heard of a Jewish couple in Brooklyn, NY having a wedding
and on the menu besides the cake is sushi and kosher ham.
The rabbi said that they drained all of the pig's blood, so now its kosher.
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Must of been reform. Pig is not kosher now.
And your right not all of the blood is removed, but the majority is, and the one that remains is allowed. 1 thing though, using kosher salt 72 hours after the animal has been slaughtered is not good and wont remove that blood. Right after (within 72 hours, unless they freeze it- might give them more, they (the slaughteres) themselves have to remove the blood. And thats why authentic Glatt Kosher places will do that, and one of the reason why "regular" kosher is in fact not really kosher (as meat is concerned).
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On a different note, what makes cheese kosher and unkosher?
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Rennet, which is used to harden cheese, is often taken from non-kosher animals...
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What if rennet comes from a kosher animal? It's still a mixture of meat and cheese.
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True, and I even heard this from a professor of mine when I asked him (after class) whats the difference between conservative and Orthodox Judasim (I know, but just wanted to see what he will say). He was talking and then he said that for example in Kashrut they allow chemicals (or whatever that is) that is made from meat to as an add on to cheese and they allow it as kosher.
After that I understood even more that we should watch out for the proper Kosher symbols even in cheese and things we might think is not that bad (like candy), and not rely on on our opinion and on so-called kosher standards which are not legit. Only buy from the legit Orthodox hechscherim.
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It's not good to be so shallow..when you dive into shallow water, you can potentially break your neck...Just a heads up.
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What are you talking about?
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"Legit orthodox"?!
It's not good to be alone in the world, Tzvi...watch your mouth! First it's the reform, then it's the conservative, then Orthodox A is not jewish enough..and then Orthodox B isn't jewish enough and so it goes...You don't preach proper Torah when you speak like that...
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Can you blame him for not wanting to eat Treif?
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Treif?! How about stop breathing air because it is recycled from the byproduct of pigs who breath this air...you've got to be kidding me!
"Legit orthodox?!" I find that to be offensive and i'm not even orthodox! Putting one's nose in the air to a fellow Jew or group of Jewish people? This is why the reform movement does insane things to rebel..this is why the conservative movemetn does things to rebel..because of people like Tzvi!
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Ok, so then tell me, Dr. Dan, whose hecshers should we accept?
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
Dr. Dan you are right, you need some time off. I dont know what you are talking about, but I said one should follow the legit Orthodox hecsherim, and not reform or conservative, soo what? - and I wasn't even saying go to Orthodox A or Orthodox B, + you cant blame me or people who think like me, or use them as an excuse not to eat kosher or do other things, becuase at the end of the day its just an excuse.
DownwithIslam:
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on February 24, 2008, 10:54:47 PM ---Dr. Dan you are right, you need some time off. I dont know what you are talking about, but I said one should follow the legit Orthodox hecsherim, and not reform or conservative, soo what? - and I wasn't even saying go to Orthodox A or Orthodox B, + you cant blame me or people who think like me, or use them as an excuse not to eat kosher or do other things, becuase at the end of the day its just an excuse.
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Tzvi, you can come and push all the Torahanytime.com you want(and I have no problem with that) but you have to realize that if you drive one jew away from judaism, all the torahanytime.com in the world won't make up for that sin. Can't you be respectful to Dr. Dan at all? Don't you recognize him as a person? Would you talk to a dog in such a way? You weren't even attacking me here but I feel so bad that you can talk in such an arrogant way to another jew. He wasn't telling you to eat treif, he was just saying that you should be careful the way you word things. I don't want any arguments to break out over this, just please be careful they way you address other people. I certainly don't see any reason for you to say that Dr. Dan needs "time off." He seems very reasonable to me.
Dr. Dan:
--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on February 24, 2008, 10:53:22 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on February 24, 2008, 10:50:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on February 24, 2008, 10:46:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on February 24, 2008, 10:45:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on February 24, 2008, 10:33:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on February 24, 2008, 10:15:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on February 24, 2008, 09:41:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on February 24, 2008, 09:35:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on February 21, 2008, 11:31:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on February 21, 2008, 08:43:11 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on February 21, 2008, 02:03:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: angryChineseKahanist on February 21, 2008, 01:57:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: David Ben Ze'ev Aryeh on February 21, 2008, 01:49:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: angryChineseKahanist on February 21, 2008, 09:45:15 AM ---Why do you need Kosher salt?
What's the difference between Kosher salt (NaCl) and non Kosher salt (NaCl)?
--- End quote ---
All salt is Kosher the reason why it is called "Kosher Salt" is because even after the the Animal had been slautered it is not kosher until the Blood is removed entirelly and Salt removes the blood
--- End quote ---
I don't understand how you can remove all the animal's blood.
I don't think it's possible to remove all of the animal's blood perfectly.
So, some blood is still there.
Ever heard of kosher pork or kosher ham?
Many years ago I heard of a Jewish couple in Brooklyn, NY having a wedding
and on the menu besides the cake is sushi and kosher ham.
The rabbi said that they drained all of the pig's blood, so now its kosher.
--- End quote ---
Must of been reform. Pig is not kosher now.
And your right not all of the blood is removed, but the majority is, and the one that remains is allowed. 1 thing though, using kosher salt 72 hours after the animal has been slaughtered is not good and wont remove that blood. Right after (within 72 hours, unless they freeze it- might give them more, they (the slaughteres) themselves have to remove the blood. And thats why authentic Glatt Kosher places will do that, and one of the reason why "regular" kosher is in fact not really kosher (as meat is concerned).
--- End quote ---
On a different note, what makes cheese kosher and unkosher?
--- End quote ---
Rennet, which is used to harden cheese, is often taken from non-kosher animals...
--- End quote ---
What if rennet comes from a kosher animal? It's still a mixture of meat and cheese.
--- End quote ---
True, and I even heard this from a professor of mine when I asked him (after class) whats the difference between conservative and Orthodox Judasim (I know, but just wanted to see what he will say). He was talking and then he said that for example in Kashrut they allow chemicals (or whatever that is) that is made from meat to as an add on to cheese and they allow it as kosher.
After that I understood even more that we should watch out for the proper Kosher symbols even in cheese and things we might think is not that bad (like candy), and not rely on on our opinion and on so-called kosher standards which are not legit. Only buy from the legit Orthodox hechscherim.
--- End quote ---
It's not good to be so shallow..when you dive into shallow water, you can potentially break your neck...Just a heads up.
--- End quote ---
What are you talking about?
--- End quote ---
"Legit orthodox"?!
It's not good to be alone in the world, Tzvi...watch your mouth! First it's the reform, then it's the conservative, then Orthodox A is not jewish enough..and then Orthodox B isn't jewish enough and so it goes...You don't preach proper Torah when you speak like that...
--- End quote ---
Can you blame him for not wanting to eat Treif?
--- End quote ---
Treif?! How about stop breathing air because it is recycled from the byproduct of pigs who breath this air...you've got to be kidding me!
"Legit orthodox?!" I find that to be offensive and i'm not even orthodox! Putting one's nose in the air to a fellow Jew or group of Jewish people? This is why the reform movement does insane things to rebel..this is why the conservative movemetn does things to rebel..because of people like Tzvi!
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Ok, so then tell me, Dr. Dan, whose hecshers should we accept?
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An enzyme is an enzyme...they both look alike sometimes. At the point of an enzyme you can't recognize whether it came from meat or dairy..please spare me because once you create this fence then it screws people like me over andthen I'm not Jewish enough to any of you andthen we form our own silly movements in rebellion...Think about it.
Dr. Dan:
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on February 24, 2008, 10:54:47 PM ---Dr. Dan you are right, you need some time off. I dont know what you are talking about, but I said one should follow the legit Orthodox hecsherim, and not reform or conservative, soo what? - and I wasn't even saying go to Orthodox A or Orthodox B, + you cant blame me or people who think like me, or use them as an excuse not to eat kosher or do other things, becuase at the end of the day its just an excuse.
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And you Tzvi, you need to show some respect to your elders...you have damaged my view of Judaism more than you can imagine...done the exact opposite to what Chaim had been doing for the last 15 months! I can't believe you were made honorable winged member...you dont' deserve it...
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