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Why do you need Kosher salt?
OdKahaneChai:
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--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on February 24, 2008, 10:45:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on February 24, 2008, 10:33:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on February 24, 2008, 10:15:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on February 24, 2008, 09:41:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on February 24, 2008, 09:35:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on February 21, 2008, 11:31:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on February 21, 2008, 08:43:11 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on February 21, 2008, 02:03:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: angryChineseKahanist on February 21, 2008, 01:57:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: David Ben Ze'ev Aryeh on February 21, 2008, 01:49:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: angryChineseKahanist on February 21, 2008, 09:45:15 AM ---Why do you need Kosher salt?
What's the difference between Kosher salt (NaCl) and non Kosher salt (NaCl)?
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All salt is Kosher the reason why it is called "Kosher Salt" is because even after the the Animal had been slautered it is not kosher until the Blood is removed entirelly and Salt removes the blood
--- End quote ---
I don't understand how you can remove all the animal's blood.
I don't think it's possible to remove all of the animal's blood perfectly.
So, some blood is still there.
Ever heard of kosher pork or kosher ham?
Many years ago I heard of a Jewish couple in Brooklyn, NY having a wedding
and on the menu besides the cake is sushi and kosher ham.
The rabbi said that they drained all of the pig's blood, so now its kosher.
--- End quote ---
Must of been reform. Pig is not kosher now.
And your right not all of the blood is removed, but the majority is, and the one that remains is allowed. 1 thing though, using kosher salt 72 hours after the animal has been slaughtered is not good and wont remove that blood. Right after (within 72 hours, unless they freeze it- might give them more, they (the slaughteres) themselves have to remove the blood. And thats why authentic Glatt Kosher places will do that, and one of the reason why "regular" kosher is in fact not really kosher (as meat is concerned).
--- End quote ---
On a different note, what makes cheese kosher and unkosher?
--- End quote ---
Rennet, which is used to harden cheese, is often taken from non-kosher animals...
--- End quote ---
What if rennet comes from a kosher animal? It's still a mixture of meat and cheese.
--- End quote ---
True, and I even heard this from a professor of mine when I asked him (after class) whats the difference between conservative and Orthodox Judasim (I know, but just wanted to see what he will say). He was talking and then he said that for example in Kashrut they allow chemicals (or whatever that is) that is made from meat to as an add on to cheese and they allow it as kosher.
After that I understood even more that we should watch out for the proper Kosher symbols even in cheese and things we might think is not that bad (like candy), and not rely on on our opinion and on so-called kosher standards which are not legit. Only buy from the legit Orthodox hechscherim.
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It's not good to be so shallow..when you dive into shallow water, you can potentially break your neck...Just a heads up.
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What are you talking about?
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"Legit orthodox"?!
It's not good to be alone in the world, Tzvi...watch your mouth! First it's the reform, then it's the conservative, then Orthodox A is not jewish enough..and then Orthodox B isn't jewish enough and so it goes...You don't preach proper Torah when you speak like that...
--- End quote ---
Can you blame him for not wanting to eat Treif?
--- End quote ---
Treif?! How about stop breathing air because it is recycled from the byproduct of pigs who breath this air...you've got to be kidding me!
"Legit orthodox?!" I find that to be offensive and i'm not even orthodox! Putting one's nose in the air to a fellow Jew or group of Jewish people? This is why the reform movement does insane things to rebel..this is why the conservative movemetn does things to rebel..because of people like Tzvi!
--- End quote ---
Ok, so then tell me, Dr. Dan, whose hecshers should we accept?
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An enzyme is an enzyme...they both look alike sometimes. At the point of an enzyme you can't recognize whether it came from meat or dairy..please spare me because once you create this fence then it screws people like me over andthen I'm not Jewish enough to any of you andthen we form our own silly movements in rebellion...Think about it.
--- End quote ---
You're not answering the question...
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you are asking teh wrong Jew which hechshers for you to follow...and you should know better that I don't have a clue on that..so please, spare yourself from embarrassing me in front of everyone here on this forum.
You can build all the fences you want for yourself...but don't impose your fence on me or any other Jew who disagrees with it.
In my opinion, some of you make a big deal about enzymes which can barely be seen with an electron microscope...To me, that's going too far and too strict and possibly not in spirit of Torah Judaism. certainly will not become karet or go to Hell, Gd forbid, if the enzyme whcih is unrecognizable to the human eye, and just happens to come from a cow kosher or unkosher and one from a dairy product.
Yes, if i had a table spoon of milk on my plate and decided to put a nice chunk of kosher steak on top of it, I would agree that doing that isn't safe...but that's my personal choice of considering it unsafe.
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But that's where Judaism disagrees. It's my obligation to try in every possible way to prevent you from doing so.
--- End quote ---
I completely understand that fences need to be built and sanctified. I will not argue with that concept. However, some fences very religious and observant Jews make are way too far away from the Torah.
I'll give an example of a fence that has nothign to do wtih Torah...Chocolate. A delicious sweet fattening dessert and snack!
If one is on a diet he should not eat chocolate. So that not eating chocolate is the commandment. To build a fence around this commandent: "Thou shalt not eat chocolate", one will make a rule not to look at it; antoher will say, not to go in the same room where the chocolate is...and one will make a fence not to go into the same building as the chocollate..and onthe rwill make a fence even further way not to be in the same friggin town as the chocolate!
so pray tell, going back to the enzymes...electron microscope level is a big deal to you? YOu shoudl makeit a big deal to all Jews? I dont' think so...but for yourself, do what keeps you from beign tempted from eating chocolate...
got it?
--- End quote ---
Dr. Dan, that made no sense. Who says a Jew needs to be on a diet?
You toss the word "fence" around a lot. And you usually use them to mean any a Halacha that is D'Rabbonon. And you are getting these confused with something that is just a stringency. Por ejemplo:
Muktzah: Rabbinic Prohibition. LAW.
Not Carrying on Shabbos, inside an Eruv: stringency. Not Law.
See the difference?...
--- End quote ---
1. My example of chocolates has nothign to do with actual jewish law. It is a perception of what some religious Jews do with Torah law when a fence i built around it.
2. I don't understand the second part. Please explain the difference.
--- End quote ---
One is a Law, from the Rabbis, which must be observed, and the other is a stringency, that doesn't have to be observed. Understand?
--- End quote ---
I understand the stringency.
But not all Rabbis agreed or have the same interpretation of a certain law.
--- End quote ---
"From the Rabbis," usually means from the Amoraim, Tannaim, or before. I think you misunderstood me there.
--- Quote ---Are enzymes a stringency or a law?
--- End quote ---
That rennet is treif is a law. It is normally taken from non-kosher animals...
Dr. Dan:
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--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on February 25, 2008, 11:25:39 PM ---
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--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on February 25, 2008, 10:59:40 PM ---
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--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on February 24, 2008, 11:36:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on February 24, 2008, 11:03:30 PM ---
--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on February 24, 2008, 10:53:22 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on February 24, 2008, 10:50:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on February 24, 2008, 10:46:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on February 24, 2008, 10:45:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on February 24, 2008, 10:33:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on February 24, 2008, 10:15:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on February 24, 2008, 09:41:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on February 24, 2008, 09:35:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on February 21, 2008, 11:31:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on February 21, 2008, 08:43:11 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on February 21, 2008, 02:03:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: angryChineseKahanist on February 21, 2008, 01:57:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: David Ben Ze'ev Aryeh on February 21, 2008, 01:49:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: angryChineseKahanist on February 21, 2008, 09:45:15 AM ---Why do you need Kosher salt?
What's the difference between Kosher salt (NaCl) and non Kosher salt (NaCl)?
--- End quote ---
All salt is Kosher the reason why it is called "Kosher Salt" is because even after the the Animal had been slautered it is not kosher until the Blood is removed entirelly and Salt removes the blood
--- End quote ---
I don't understand how you can remove all the animal's blood.
I don't think it's possible to remove all of the animal's blood perfectly.
So, some blood is still there.
Ever heard of kosher pork or kosher ham?
Many years ago I heard of a Jewish couple in Brooklyn, NY having a wedding
and on the menu besides the cake is sushi and kosher ham.
The rabbi said that they drained all of the pig's blood, so now its kosher.
--- End quote ---
Must of been reform. Pig is not kosher now.
And your right not all of the blood is removed, but the majority is, and the one that remains is allowed. 1 thing though, using kosher salt 72 hours after the animal has been slaughtered is not good and wont remove that blood. Right after (within 72 hours, unless they freeze it- might give them more, they (the slaughteres) themselves have to remove the blood. And thats why authentic Glatt Kosher places will do that, and one of the reason why "regular" kosher is in fact not really kosher (as meat is concerned).
--- End quote ---
On a different note, what makes cheese kosher and unkosher?
--- End quote ---
Rennet, which is used to harden cheese, is often taken from non-kosher animals...
--- End quote ---
What if rennet comes from a kosher animal? It's still a mixture of meat and cheese.
--- End quote ---
True, and I even heard this from a professor of mine when I asked him (after class) whats the difference between conservative and Orthodox Judasim (I know, but just wanted to see what he will say). He was talking and then he said that for example in Kashrut they allow chemicals (or whatever that is) that is made from meat to as an add on to cheese and they allow it as kosher.
After that I understood even more that we should watch out for the proper Kosher symbols even in cheese and things we might think is not that bad (like candy), and not rely on on our opinion and on so-called kosher standards which are not legit. Only buy from the legit Orthodox hechscherim.
--- End quote ---
It's not good to be so shallow..when you dive into shallow water, you can potentially break your neck...Just a heads up.
--- End quote ---
What are you talking about?
--- End quote ---
"Legit orthodox"?!
It's not good to be alone in the world, Tzvi...watch your mouth! First it's the reform, then it's the conservative, then Orthodox A is not jewish enough..and then Orthodox B isn't jewish enough and so it goes...You don't preach proper Torah when you speak like that...
--- End quote ---
Can you blame him for not wanting to eat Treif?
--- End quote ---
Treif?! How about stop breathing air because it is recycled from the byproduct of pigs who breath this air...you've got to be kidding me!
"Legit orthodox?!" I find that to be offensive and i'm not even orthodox! Putting one's nose in the air to a fellow Jew or group of Jewish people? This is why the reform movement does insane things to rebel..this is why the conservative movemetn does things to rebel..because of people like Tzvi!
--- End quote ---
Ok, so then tell me, Dr. Dan, whose hecshers should we accept?
--- End quote ---
An enzyme is an enzyme...they both look alike sometimes. At the point of an enzyme you can't recognize whether it came from meat or dairy..please spare me because once you create this fence then it screws people like me over andthen I'm not Jewish enough to any of you andthen we form our own silly movements in rebellion...Think about it.
--- End quote ---
You're not answering the question...
--- End quote ---
you are asking teh wrong Jew which hechshers for you to follow...and you should know better that I don't have a clue on that..so please, spare yourself from embarrassing me in front of everyone here on this forum.
You can build all the fences you want for yourself...but don't impose your fence on me or any other Jew who disagrees with it.
In my opinion, some of you make a big deal about enzymes which can barely be seen with an electron microscope...To me, that's going too far and too strict and possibly not in spirit of Torah Judaism. certainly will not become karet or go to Hell, Gd forbid, if the enzyme whcih is unrecognizable to the human eye, and just happens to come from a cow kosher or unkosher and one from a dairy product.
Yes, if i had a table spoon of milk on my plate and decided to put a nice chunk of kosher steak on top of it, I would agree that doing that isn't safe...but that's my personal choice of considering it unsafe.
--- End quote ---
But that's where Judaism disagrees. It's my obligation to try in every possible way to prevent you from doing so.
--- End quote ---
I completely understand that fences need to be built and sanctified. I will not argue with that concept. However, some fences very religious and observant Jews make are way too far away from the Torah.
I'll give an example of a fence that has nothign to do wtih Torah...Chocolate. A delicious sweet fattening dessert and snack!
If one is on a diet he should not eat chocolate. So that not eating chocolate is the commandment. To build a fence around this commandent: "Thou shalt not eat chocolate", one will make a rule not to look at it; antoher will say, not to go in the same room where the chocolate is...and one will make a fence not to go into the same building as the chocollate..and onthe rwill make a fence even further way not to be in the same friggin town as the chocolate!
so pray tell, going back to the enzymes...electron microscope level is a big deal to you? YOu shoudl makeit a big deal to all Jews? I dont' think so...but for yourself, do what keeps you from beign tempted from eating chocolate...
got it?
--- End quote ---
Dr. Dan, that made no sense. Who says a Jew needs to be on a diet?
You toss the word "fence" around a lot. And you usually use them to mean any a Halacha that is D'Rabbonon. And you are getting these confused with something that is just a stringency. Por ejemplo:
Muktzah: Rabbinic Prohibition. LAW.
Not Carrying on Shabbos, inside an Eruv: stringency. Not Law.
See the difference?...
--- End quote ---
1. My example of chocolates has nothign to do with actual jewish law. It is a perception of what some religious Jews do with Torah law when a fence i built around it.
2. I don't understand the second part. Please explain the difference.
--- End quote ---
One is a Law, from the Rabbis, which must be observed, and the other is a stringency, that doesn't have to be observed. Understand?
--- End quote ---
I understand the stringency.
But not all Rabbis agreed or have the same interpretation of a certain law.
--- End quote ---
"From the Rabbis," usually means from the Amoraim, Tannaim, or before. I think you misunderstood me there.
--- Quote ---Are enzymes a stringency or a law?
--- End quote ---
That rennet is treif is a law. It is normally taken from non-kosher animals...
--- End quote ---
What is rennet exactly?
I heard somewhere, in regards to gelatin, that sometimes it comes from pig bone or pig cartilage and processed to a point that it is unrecognizable to be any different if it were from a kosher animal. I think ther eis a disagreement between orthodox rabbis with each other on whether it can be eaten...and obviously with conservative rabbis and orthodox rabbis (but we will leave the non orthodox rabbis out of this arguement).
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
"I think ther eis a disagreement between orthodox rabbis with each other on whether it can be eaten..."
If so then provide a source please. By the way many of the protein shakes and other things are made from stuff like this. And thats why their are some that have an O U sign saying it isn't made from that (but usually from WHEY.
Dr. Dan:
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on February 25, 2008, 11:43:41 PM ---"I think ther eis a disagreement between orthodox rabbis with each other on whether it can be eaten..."
If so then provide a source please. By the way many of the protein shakes and other things are made from stuff like this. And thats why their are some that have an O U sign saying it isn't made from that (but usually from WHEY.
--- End quote ---
I know some orthodox jews who will not eat at certain glatt kosher restaurants. (I dont' remember the reason, though). so i have no source and you have to understand, I don't have access nor time to find soruces like you do who studies in yeshiva all day. So please be fair...show me that orthodox rabbis agree on everything with each other in regards to kashrut and I'll listen, even though i'm goign to keep askign questions.
And don't dismiss my arguements if i dont' have sources...teach me.
OdKahaneChai:
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on February 25, 2008, 11:38:16 PM ---
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--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on February 25, 2008, 04:46:34 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on February 24, 2008, 11:44:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on February 24, 2008, 11:36:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on February 24, 2008, 11:03:30 PM ---
--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on February 24, 2008, 10:53:22 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on February 24, 2008, 10:50:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on February 24, 2008, 10:46:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on February 24, 2008, 10:45:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on February 24, 2008, 10:33:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on February 24, 2008, 10:15:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on February 24, 2008, 09:41:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on February 24, 2008, 09:35:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: OdKahaneChai on February 21, 2008, 11:31:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on February 21, 2008, 08:43:11 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on February 21, 2008, 02:03:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: angryChineseKahanist on February 21, 2008, 01:57:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: David Ben Ze'ev Aryeh on February 21, 2008, 01:49:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: angryChineseKahanist on February 21, 2008, 09:45:15 AM ---Why do you need Kosher salt?
What's the difference between Kosher salt (NaCl) and non Kosher salt (NaCl)?
--- End quote ---
All salt is Kosher the reason why it is called "Kosher Salt" is because even after the the Animal had been slautered it is not kosher until the Blood is removed entirelly and Salt removes the blood
--- End quote ---
I don't understand how you can remove all the animal's blood.
I don't think it's possible to remove all of the animal's blood perfectly.
So, some blood is still there.
Ever heard of kosher pork or kosher ham?
Many years ago I heard of a Jewish couple in Brooklyn, NY having a wedding
and on the menu besides the cake is sushi and kosher ham.
The rabbi said that they drained all of the pig's blood, so now its kosher.
--- End quote ---
Must of been reform. Pig is not kosher now.
And your right not all of the blood is removed, but the majority is, and the one that remains is allowed. 1 thing though, using kosher salt 72 hours after the animal has been slaughtered is not good and wont remove that blood. Right after (within 72 hours, unless they freeze it- might give them more, they (the slaughteres) themselves have to remove the blood. And thats why authentic Glatt Kosher places will do that, and one of the reason why "regular" kosher is in fact not really kosher (as meat is concerned).
--- End quote ---
On a different note, what makes cheese kosher and unkosher?
--- End quote ---
Rennet, which is used to harden cheese, is often taken from non-kosher animals...
--- End quote ---
What if rennet comes from a kosher animal? It's still a mixture of meat and cheese.
--- End quote ---
True, and I even heard this from a professor of mine when I asked him (after class) whats the difference between conservative and Orthodox Judasim (I know, but just wanted to see what he will say). He was talking and then he said that for example in Kashrut they allow chemicals (or whatever that is) that is made from meat to as an add on to cheese and they allow it as kosher.
After that I understood even more that we should watch out for the proper Kosher symbols even in cheese and things we might think is not that bad (like candy), and not rely on on our opinion and on so-called kosher standards which are not legit. Only buy from the legit Orthodox hechscherim.
--- End quote ---
It's not good to be so shallow..when you dive into shallow water, you can potentially break your neck...Just a heads up.
--- End quote ---
What are you talking about?
--- End quote ---
"Legit orthodox"?!
It's not good to be alone in the world, Tzvi...watch your mouth! First it's the reform, then it's the conservative, then Orthodox A is not jewish enough..and then Orthodox B isn't jewish enough and so it goes...You don't preach proper Torah when you speak like that...
--- End quote ---
Can you blame him for not wanting to eat Treif?
--- End quote ---
Treif?! How about stop breathing air because it is recycled from the byproduct of pigs who breath this air...you've got to be kidding me!
"Legit orthodox?!" I find that to be offensive and i'm not even orthodox! Putting one's nose in the air to a fellow Jew or group of Jewish people? This is why the reform movement does insane things to rebel..this is why the conservative movemetn does things to rebel..because of people like Tzvi!
--- End quote ---
Ok, so then tell me, Dr. Dan, whose hecshers should we accept?
--- End quote ---
An enzyme is an enzyme...they both look alike sometimes. At the point of an enzyme you can't recognize whether it came from meat or dairy..please spare me because once you create this fence then it screws people like me over andthen I'm not Jewish enough to any of you andthen we form our own silly movements in rebellion...Think about it.
--- End quote ---
You're not answering the question...
--- End quote ---
you are asking teh wrong Jew which hechshers for you to follow...and you should know better that I don't have a clue on that..so please, spare yourself from embarrassing me in front of everyone here on this forum.
You can build all the fences you want for yourself...but don't impose your fence on me or any other Jew who disagrees with it.
In my opinion, some of you make a big deal about enzymes which can barely be seen with an electron microscope...To me, that's going too far and too strict and possibly not in spirit of Torah Judaism. certainly will not become karet or go to Hell, Gd forbid, if the enzyme whcih is unrecognizable to the human eye, and just happens to come from a cow kosher or unkosher and one from a dairy product.
Yes, if i had a table spoon of milk on my plate and decided to put a nice chunk of kosher steak on top of it, I would agree that doing that isn't safe...but that's my personal choice of considering it unsafe.
--- End quote ---
But that's where Judaism disagrees. It's my obligation to try in every possible way to prevent you from doing so.
--- End quote ---
I completely understand that fences need to be built and sanctified. I will not argue with that concept. However, some fences very religious and observant Jews make are way too far away from the Torah.
I'll give an example of a fence that has nothign to do wtih Torah...Chocolate. A delicious sweet fattening dessert and snack!
If one is on a diet he should not eat chocolate. So that not eating chocolate is the commandment. To build a fence around this commandent: "Thou shalt not eat chocolate", one will make a rule not to look at it; antoher will say, not to go in the same room where the chocolate is...and one will make a fence not to go into the same building as the chocollate..and onthe rwill make a fence even further way not to be in the same friggin town as the chocolate!
so pray tell, going back to the enzymes...electron microscope level is a big deal to you? YOu shoudl makeit a big deal to all Jews? I dont' think so...but for yourself, do what keeps you from beign tempted from eating chocolate...
got it?
--- End quote ---
Dr. Dan, that made no sense. Who says a Jew needs to be on a diet?
You toss the word "fence" around a lot. And you usually use them to mean any a Halacha that is D'Rabbonon. And you are getting these confused with something that is just a stringency. Por ejemplo:
Muktzah: Rabbinic Prohibition. LAW.
Not Carrying on Shabbos, inside an Eruv: stringency. Not Law.
See the difference?...
--- End quote ---
1. My example of chocolates has nothign to do with actual jewish law. It is a perception of what some religious Jews do with Torah law when a fence i built around it.
2. I don't understand the second part. Please explain the difference.
--- End quote ---
One is a Law, from the Rabbis, which must be observed, and the other is a stringency, that doesn't have to be observed. Understand?
--- End quote ---
I understand the stringency.
But not all Rabbis agreed or have the same interpretation of a certain law.
--- End quote ---
"From the Rabbis," usually means from the Amoraim, Tannaim, or before. I think you misunderstood me there.
--- Quote ---Are enzymes a stringency or a law?
--- End quote ---
That rennet is treif is a law. It is normally taken from non-kosher animals...
--- End quote ---
What is rennet exactly?
--- End quote ---
From my understanding, it's a digestive enzyme found in mammals, that is normally taken from either non-kosher animals, or at least calves or kids that were not slaughtered according to Halacha. And even if it were, you would still have a problem because it (I believe) would be considered Fleishig. I think most kosher cheeses use vegetable "rennet>"
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