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Tina Greco - Melbourne:

--- Quote from: Sarah on March 02, 2008, 06:27:54 AM ---
--- Quote from: Skippy on March 02, 2008, 06:23:51 AM ---
--- Quote from: Sarah on March 02, 2008, 05:46:29 AM ---
--- Quote from: Skippy on March 02, 2008, 03:45:39 AM ---I believe it doesn't matter if you have the animal for one month or 18 or 20 years, your attachment to the animal is the same. They each bring something different into your life, and I think many times they fill a need you have. They are honored because of this, and loved without question. And there is always something that stays with you even then that pet as pasted from this world.

A Rabbi once said to me, Never morn over what is lost, because one day it will return.



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I disagree, if you have the animal for longer your attachment is a lot stronger.

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Thats clearly up to you Sarah, but its my belief animals Something you must love whole hearty from the beginning , not something that has to grow on you to love. Thats why animals are not objects but living breathing life that we must take care of. and if we don't then you are not worthy of having it as a pet in the first place.

Most people I find, are not worthy of even having a pet rock.

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Of course you must love animals from the beginning, especially if you're going to keep them as a pet. However if you have that pet for say 15 years, you'd love them in a hell of a lot more ways then if you had the pet for a year. You get to know the animal more over time and deepen your connection with it.



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NO I disagree, its like you love a child more as it gets older, if it dies at one year old, then its not as bad as if it dies when it is 15 years old. Love doesn't work that way. Well put it this way it should never work that  way. You are so young Sarah and Never had a major loss. One day you will realize giving your unconditional love to another living creature is easy, and not something that has to be earnt. A closed heart, is a closed soul.

Yes you will feel hurt and grief, but that is all apart of life. A very important part of life. Without it you are soulless and unfeeling, a zombie if you will.

Most mass murders started out in life with little to no care for animals, and sees them as objects, their lack of empathy grows and imparts on to human beings. Then their evil has no limits.

Sarah:

--- Quote from: Skippy on March 02, 2008, 06:38:47 AM ---
--- Quote from: Sarah on March 02, 2008, 06:27:54 AM ---
--- Quote from: Skippy on March 02, 2008, 06:23:51 AM ---
--- Quote from: Sarah on March 02, 2008, 05:46:29 AM ---
--- Quote from: Skippy on March 02, 2008, 03:45:39 AM ---I believe it doesn't matter if you have the animal for one month or 18 or 20 years, your attachment to the animal is the same. They each bring something different into your life, and I think many times they fill a need you have. They are honored because of this, and loved without question. And there is always something that stays with you even then that pet as pasted from this world.

A Rabbi once said to me, Never morn over what is lost, because one day it will return.



--- End quote ---

I disagree, if you have the animal for longer your attachment is a lot stronger.

--- End quote ---

Thats clearly up to you Sarah, but its my belief animals Something you must love whole hearty from the beginning , not something that has to grow on you to love. Thats why animals are not objects but living breathing life that we must take care of. and if we don't then you are not worthy of having it as a pet in the first place.

Most people I find, are not worthy of even having a pet rock.

--- End quote ---

Of course you must love animals from the beginning, especially if you're going to keep them as a pet. However if you have that pet for say 15 years, you'd love them in a hell of a lot more ways then if you had the pet for a year. You get to know the animal more over time and deepen your connection with it.



--- End quote ---

NO I disagree, its like you love a child more as it gets older, if it dies at one year old, then its not as bad as if it dies when it is 15 years old. Love doesn't work that way. Well put it this way it should never work that  way. You are so young Sarah and Never had a major loss. One day you will realize giving your unconditional love to another living creature is easy, and not something that has to be earnt. A closed heart, is a closed soul.

Yes you will feel hurt and grief, but that is all apart of life. A very important part of life. Without it you are soulless and unfeeling, a zombie if you will.

Most mass murders started out in life with little to no care for animals, and sees them as objects, their lack of empathy grows and imparts on to human beings. Then their evil has no limits.


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Yeah you are right.

I think i am quite a hard person but that hardness is as a result of wanting to help the person and feel the loss.
As soon as something bad happens, my mind purposefully switches from being upset to anger.....

Rubystars:
My sister and her boyfriend didn't spay their cat on time and they had a male and a female cat. Well, surprise surprise, "Sally" got pregnant by "Cashew". They had some very sweet, beautiful little kittens. Don't worry, both cats are fixed now.

They kept some of the kittens and found homes for the others. Their favorite little kitten, whom they named Jeremiah, died very young. They live in an apartment, so they brought the kitten to the home I live in to bury it. They wanted to know where their little Jeremiah was buried and be able to mourn him properly. They loved that kitten, even though it was very young, and it hurt them to lose that kitten.

They were going to have many years with that kitten but unfortunately something was wrong with his little lungs and he didn't live long.

Even at that age and with such a short span of time, the kitten meant a lot to them. I petted the soft little kitten before they buried it too and I felt very sad. It was a very cute little animal.

Sarah:
Also, when there is a farm you cannot get attached to the animals in the same way....because the next day you turn around they're on somebodies plate.

Tina Greco - Melbourne:
Oh Ruby its very sad when you see and animal so young died. Poor little thing.

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