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Would you eat pork when it becomes kosher when The Mashiach comes?

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Scriabin:

--- Quote from: Ari on February 27, 2008, 08:42:24 PM ---I think so, Scriabin, but double check with some other members to be sure. :::D

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I actually like pork.

(I'm just being honest, not trying to irritate members of the forum.)

Tzvi Ben Roshel1:

--- Quote from: DanBenNoah on February 27, 2008, 08:52:15 PM ---I can accept the allegory to Edom idea, but come on.  Certain animals are not going to literally start chewing cuds just because the Moshiach comes.  Cud-chewing is a biological function of ruminants.  Will the pig grow a new stomach too so this can take place?  There is not one scripture that indicates this.  Why stop at the pig?  Maybe camels will start being born with cloven hoofs and then they can be eaten too.  Maybe shellfish will develop fins and scales.  And the root of "chazir" might mean return, but what is the pig "returning" to if it becomes kosher?  It never chewed the cud before, and wasn't created to chew the cud.  I could make up just as good of an answer.  It means all the pigs in Israel will "return" to all the Gentile nations they came from when Moshiach comes.  Or maybe it has nothing to do with Moshiach and means that if a Jew ever buys a pig, he must "return" it.

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 You dont understand. I personally have heard it but not indepth, BUT it is discussed amoung the sages and not camels, so it is valid. G-d changing the nature of an animal is not too-farfetched because G-d is Allmighty and even if you want Miracles He did make many Miracles in the past and will in the future.
  Whether it will happen or not is not hard to belive, If G-d wants it can happen, if it wasn't meant to, then it wont physically happen, either way its not a problem.

Dr. Dan:
If it is written that the lion (or wolf) is going to lie with the lamb...meaning carnivores will become herbavores, then I highly doubt humans will desire to eat any type of animal in the World to Come.

Tzvi Ben Roshel1:

--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on February 27, 2008, 09:22:03 PM ---If it is written that the lion (or wolf) is going to lie with the lamb...meaning carnivores will become herbavores, then I highly doubt humans will desire to eat any type of animal in the World to Come.

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Thats a remez (allegorical). + maybe this is talking about the time after Moshiah (which will last until the year 7,000).

Tzvi Ben Roshel1:

--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on February 27, 2008, 09:35:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on February 27, 2008, 09:27:35 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on February 27, 2008, 09:22:03 PM ---If it is written that the lion (or wolf) is going to lie with the lamb...meaning carnivores will become herbivores, then I highly doubt humans will desire to eat any type of animal in the World to Come.

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Thats a remez (allegorical). + maybe this is talking about the time after Moshiah (which will last until the year 7,000).

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What will happen after the 1,000 years are up?

I also heard that when Moshiach comes, all holidays will be abolished except for Purim and Yom Kippur. Kippurim means "like Purim". But why would people say this if it is a commandment in The Torah that we will have to go to The Temple 3 times a year in The World To Come and that even Righteous Gentile will be required to make the pilgrimage to Jerusalem every Sukkot?



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I dont have that exactly in my mind right now, but I remember that the Rabbi asked will it really happen that the holidays will be canceled? NO, but ...... - Its not literal you have to read the whole thing and the commenteries to really understand. Sometimes straightfoward literal understandings of the sayings of the Sages could make us think the wrong things.
 
 About after 1,000 - I dont really know except the little here and their that I heard (but very little and its not that important right now I belive).

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