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Jasmina:
How many Jews lived or live in Albania?
JelenaSrb:
Many of the knights of the Czar who would attack villages in Russia, were also devoted Orthodox Christians, who belived attacking the Jews was justified, since it is a common view in Orthodox and Catholic religions that Jews are the killers of Christ
In Orthodox Christianity killing other people is never justified except if it is a war when you have to defend yourself! Some Jews did kill Christos but Christos did resurrect! :) Lord knew they would kill Him but He also knew about resurrection! it was all planned long long ago ! ( Не знам да ли знате да су * у Вечном Савету Отац и Дух Свети одобрили Сину стварање светова за љубав Сина јер је Он у бескрајној љубави према Оцу хтео да Му угоди тиме што би му створио више синова,а себи више браће!! ) :) Glory to God! It was their choice not to accept the Messiah who kept talking about Heavenly Kingdom! Jews want earthly kingdom and God respects their choice! So do we!
Furthermore, we don't justify killing Jews because their ancestors crucified Lord Christ! There is always a possibility for Jews to convert willingly , of course. And it happens! So you never know who might be your brother ( in Christ)! :) People have the choice till the very end of their earthly lives of whether to except Christ or not. Therefore, do not worry, Christians are patient and we love you all! :) God bless!
* this is an extract from the book " Kasiana" by Saint Nikolai! :)
Zelhar:
--- Quote from: JelenaSrb on March 30, 2008, 05:55:39 AM ---Many of the knights of the Czar who would attack villages in Russia, were also devoted Orthodox Christians, who belived attacking the Jews was justified, since it is a common view in Orthodox and Catholic religions that Jews are the killers of Christ
In Orthodox Christianity killing other people is never justified except if it is a war when you have to defend yourself! Some Jews did kill Christos but Christos did resurrect! :)
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Be that as it may, the Russian Orthodox Church in czarist era was extremely antisemitic, Czarist Russia has d state sponsored antisemitism and persecutions. And The thing is that Russia had been antisemitic even before it acquired large population of jews (by conquering Poland, Lithuania, Ukraine and Belarus), the reason for that being the church.
I am not attacking your religion, but I must condemn the Russian Church as an antisemitic establishment.
--- Quote ---Furthermore, we don't justify killing Jews because their ancestors crucified Lord Christ! There is always a possibility for Jews to convert willingly , of course. And it happens! So you never know who might be your brother ( in Christ)! :) People have the choice till the very end of their earthly lives of whether to except Christ or not. Therefore, do not worry, Christians are patient and we love you all! :) G-d bless!
* this is an extract from the book " Kasiana" by Saint Nikolai! :)
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So you do see all jews as responsible for slaying jesus unless they convert?
DALMACIJA:
Many of the knights of the Czar who would attack villages in Russia, were also devoted Orthodox Christians, who belived attacking the Jews was justified, since it is a common view in Orthodox and Catholic religions that Jews are the killers of Christ
This is a lie.
This is also a wrong way of thinking and talking.
You are mixing lies with the truth. Half truths and lies can easily be considered as the truth..
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- It is a lie that the Orthodox Church had the same additude towards the Jews as the Roman Church of the Vatican had.
Were there anti semitic person among the Orthodox Church?
This is a lie.
This is also a wrong way of thinking and talking.
You are mixing lies with the truth. Half truths and lies can easily be considered as the truth..
Absolutely yes! Among every communities you have conceptions.
Where you have people you will always have trouble.
In contradiction to the Vatican the anti Semites among the Orthodox nation were always the minority. You can not judge the whole Orthodox Church for the crimes of it's minority.
The heads of the Vatican were involved with anti Semitism. That is a fact.
But the anti Semites of the Orthodox nations were just a minority and not the leaders of the church. Which Patriarch supported anti Semitism? Which church father propagated that anti Semitism was something good?
The former popes (4 example Hitler’s pope) and the other members of the Catholic Church were involved with anti Semitic activities.
To claim that the Orthodox Church or the Russian state had prepared, organized and conducted genocide against the Jews in the same way as the Vatican or Nazi Germany had done is considered as an anti Orthodox speech and as an serious attack against the whole Orthodox civilizations.
I am being very diplomatically right now and I am trying to give a serious answer with out emotions. Please people stop attacking the Orthodox Church and do not compare the history of the Vatican with the one of the Orthodox Church. Because that is Nazism!
DALMACIJA:
--- Quote from: JelenaSrb on March 30, 2008, 05:55:39 AM ---Many of the knights of the Czar who would attack villages in Russia, were also devoted Orthodox Christians, who belived attacking the Jews was justified, since it is a common view in Orthodox and Catholic religions that Jews are the killers of Christ
In Orthodox Christianity killing other people is never justified except if it is a war when you have to defend yourself! Some Jews did kill Christos but Christos did resurrect! :) Lord knew they would kill Him but He also knew about resurrection! it was all planned long long ago ! ( Не знам да ли знате да су * у Вечном Савету Отац и Дух Свети одобрили Сину стварање светова за љубав Сина јер је Он у бескрајној љубави према Оцу хтео да Му угоди тиме што би му створио више синова,а себи више браће!! ) :) Glory to G-d! It was their choice not to accept the Messiah who kept talking about Heavenly Kingdom! Jews want earthly kingdom and G-d respects their choice! So do we!
Furthermore, we don't justify killing Jews because their ancestors crucified Lord Christ! There is always a possibility for Jews to convert willingly , of course. And it happens! So you never know who might be your brother ( in Christ)! :) People have the choice till the very end of their earthly lives of whether to except Christ or not. Therefore, do not worry, Christians are patient and we love you all! :) G-d bless!
* this is an extract from the book " Kasiana" by Saint Nikolai! :)
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Hello sister,
Jews should do what they thing it's the right thing.
Nobody should try to convert anyone to the Orthodox religion.
I have no problem with Jews who only respect the authority the Tanach.
The Jews still have an important role because they are the chosen people in the days of the Tanach. The new testament is highest authority of the Christians, but the Tanach is not completely removed.
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