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Offline petre

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shame on us
« on: December 25, 2006, 10:43:29 PM »
I am a religious Jew, and I came upon this site via a google search. Your ideology is extremely racist and reminiscent of the Nazis you rightly vilify. And, btw, I consider myself weary of Islam, conservative and in support of national defense. Your vilifying everyone in mainstream leadership and culture is abhorrent. Only you are good and every other Jew or non-Jew is bad? Where in your Torah does it say blacks or Spanish are inferior? In mine it's not mentioned. Not that I ever supported affirmative action or illegal immigration, but that does not cause me to hate every single black or Spanish for it.
I will refer you to this amazing site. The people on it agree with you on almost every issue ... that is everything except Israel. And one other, only minor, side point: they may agree with you, but the murderous thugs want you dead:

http://www.StørmFrønt.org


I am sure most Jews don't support your view and neither do most white Christians and those who do are anti-Semitic white segragtionists.

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« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2006, 12:01:32 AM »
Re:  "...I am sure most Jews don't support your view and neither do most white Christians and those who do are anti-Semitic white segragtionists..."

"...anti-Semitic white segragtionists..."?

Huh?

I NOT ONLY RESENT THAT ALLEGATION, BUT I ALSO RESENT THE ALLIGATOR!

IF I CHOOSE NOT TO SUPPORT ATHLETICS, BUT YOU CHOOSE TO, DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOU ARE AN ATHLETIC SUPPORTER?

p.s.-- by the inferral, if the vast majority of people supported JTF's views, then there wouldn't be a need for JTF to exist.

p.s.s.-- you can consider yourself "religious", when JTF says that you are!

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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2006, 12:18:00 AM »
p.s.s.--

OH YEAH, AS FOR "StørmFrønt.ORG", THAT'S THAT BUNCH OF QUEERS HEADED UP BY THAT SISSY LISP DON BLACK WHO RAN FOR MAYOR OF BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA, ON THE KKK TICKET.  GOT 1200 VOTES APPROXIMATELY, IF MEMORY SERVES, FROM THE RICHEST WHITE ELITE IN THAT CITY.  SIMPLY A MONEYMAKING SCAM SELLING ALL KINDS OF KNICK-KNACK NAZI PARAPHERNALIA.  IF YOU HAVEN'T NOTICED, NOBODY HERE'S SELLIN' ANYTHING!

SO, PETRE, THERE YOU HAVE IT .... WE DON'T ALLOW QUEERS HERE! (AND I MOST CERTAINLY CAN SHOW YOU WHERE THAT RULE IS IN THE TORAH!)

EVER NOTICED THE BIZARRRE PSYCHO-SEXUAL MANIFESTATIONS WITHIN THE "NAZI" MOVEMENT?  SEEMS TO ATTRACT REPRESSED (OR NOT-SO-REPRESSED) HOMOSEXUAL MEN AND DYKE WOMEN.  MUST HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE NEED FOR "CLOSE RACIAL COMRADESHIP", OR SOME SUCH TRYPE (IF YOU KNOW I MEAN ;)

WE COULD GO MUCH FURTHER....THE EXPRESSED "ANTI-JEW" IDEOLOGY SERVING AS A MATERIAL "FRONT" FOR THE INTERNALIZED NEED TO DESTROY THE VERY SOURCE OF THE DOCTRINE WHICH DECLARES THEIR REPRESSED HOMOSEXUALITY TO BE UNNATURAL AND A SIN!

ADD TO THAT....IN CHURCH THE "SA" TYPES STOOD OR KNEELED UNCOMFORTABLY WHILE FORCED TO STARE AT AN IMAGE OF A NAKED JEWISH MAN BEING TORTURED TO DEATH....COULDN'T HELP BUT BRING OUT THE DESIRE TO "GET EVEN WITH WHOEVER IS REPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING ME THROUGH THIS" KIND OF MENTAL PROCESSES. 


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« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2006, 07:56:37 AM »
PeePee, or whatever your name is, we are in a struggle to bring this country back to its former glory. You, on the other hand want to turn America and the Holy Land into a turd world slum. I am not Jewish, but I am a radical Zionist, I believe that Israel is for my Jewish brothers and sisters and only for my Jewish brothers and sisters. I believe to save Israel all the muslims must be kicked out. There are plenty of other arab sand swamps that these 'people' can go to. To save America, we must round up the illegals and kick them out along with their anchor babies. All criminals must be exiled to Africa, no matter what their race is. No more special tax credits to sluts that have bastard children, no more free aids medicine, no more asylum, no special rights for heterophobics, no affrimative action and only black police in black areas and only white police in white areas

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« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2006, 08:08:36 AM »
I am a religious Jew, and I came upon this site via a google search. Your ideology is extremely racist and reminiscent of the Nazis you rightly vilify. And, btw, I consider myself weary of Islam, conservative and in support of national defense. Your vilifying everyone in mainstream leadership and culture is abhorrent. Only you are good and every other Jew or non-Jew is bad? Where in your Torah does it say blacks or Spanish are inferior? In mine it's not mentioned. Not that I ever supported affirmative action or illegal immigration, but that does not cause me to hate every single black or Spanish for it.
I will refer you to this amazing site. The people on it agree with you on almost every issue ... that is everything except Israel. And one other, only minor, side point: they may agree with you, but the murderous thugs want you dead:

http://www.StørmFrønt.org

I am sure most Jews don't support your view and neither do most white Christians and those who do are anti-Semitic white segragtionists.
Sir, you are a very misguided Jew.  Please allow me to answer you factually and learnedly.  What is "Racism"?  Racism is the belief that one race, your race, is superior to anothers.  A "Racist" is one whom believe such.  Is that a bad thing? There is absolutely nothing about hating races in "racism", this is another LIE of Liberal G-dless Left. The tragedy is that Liberal/Leftwing politics has infected and distorted the very meanings of normal words and good deeds into something totally different which I'm most positively sure that if you walk down the street, turn on the television set or listen to today's "music" you will start to understand.  Allow me to give you some examples: "Palestinian" when no such animal, especially an Arab/Muslim, exists.  "The West Bank", Judea and Samaria promulgated with the goal of disasociating Jews with Judea but Arabs to "Palestine", something which ceased to exist in 1923...more specifically 1947-8.  "Illegal Immigrant" when there is no such animal but either a nationalized citizen or an illegal alien which I might add is in fact breaking the law and should be deported forthwith!  The uses of labels: "Rigt Wing Extremist", "Religious Fundamentalist", "Ultra Nationalist" as being bad while people are so dumbed down not even to consider the reverse, as if it is to be a good thing: Communist/ism?  This especially applies to such tossed about labels: "Racist", "Homophobe", "Sexist" etc.  You might take the time to research political ideologies of Socialism, Communism, Liberalism, Naturalism etc. starting with the Communist Manifesto to see the end goals of all of these defunct and evil ideologies which are "progressed" with massive amounts of disinformation, socio-political propaganda to dumbdown and disarm the masses to make way for their "dictorship of the prolitariate".  Enjoy: http://www.paulbogdanor.com/left.html

Nextly, I'd love to say, knowing the definition of "racism" that I am, in fact, a "racist".  Is that a bad thing?  I'd honestly say no it is not.  Why not?  I am in total disagreement with Marxism and these "Utopian" beliefs being "everything is equal and good".  NOTHING is equal.  The tiger shark is not equal to the Great White, a Poodle is not equal to a German Shepard and this goes to plants, animals, cultures, peoples and religions.  Has; Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Communism, Wikka etc. produced and/or contributed anywhere near the amount of civilized or cultural progress and advancement as Judaism or Chrisitanity?  No, because they are not equal.  The only reason why Communist China, Russia, the Oil Rich Arabian, the African Turd World have progressed at all, specifically in the last 200 years is due to the fact that they either stole (Chinagate), purchased or were "donated", via the purely Marxist concept of "Wealth Transfer" via: Lend Lease, to advance anywhere near comparable to the West.  What does this suggest?  Are they equal if they couldn't progress at the same rate or faster than the evil Ol-Whitey and hated Judeo-Christian West?

There is a reason why America, Israel, Europe and Australia are the way they are and why Asia, Africa, the Islamic World and subsequently the Communist Block are the way they are.  If one studies history, either from the G-dless Leftwing of H.G. Wells (although promoting the digressed ideology of "collectivism" and "one world government", the Right Wing Oswald Spengler, the Christian Paul Johnson or the Jewish Bernard Lewis, one will find that the vast majority of the "civilized world" was produced from the efforts of White males who subsequently professed to a culture based on Judeo/Christian ethics.  This applies to ALL of the modern advancements within the un-civilized world.  What took Israel 60 years to achieve, which subsequently was vanquished in 24 hours by the Arabs of Gaza, Africa couldn't do in 1 million, why not?  What took Australia 100 years the entire Islamic World couldn't do in 1400 years, why not?  People, Plants, Animals, Cultures, Religions etc. are not all equal, some are better than others.  G-d is a good thing, the family is a good thing, the individual is a good thing, nations are a good thing and competition is a good thing...  Please is rid yourself of Marxist delusions and you'll be set free. 
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"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2006, 04:02:33 PM »
I read the Communist Manifesto numerous times. His economics is bogus, but he was an idealist and he wanted to make the world better for all. He barely mentioned non-Whites, except in the context of third world economies. He was a universalist in the sense that he wanted all European peoples to unite. He wanted to improve the life of the average European and American. I don't agree with him at all, but I give him credit for trying. Rarely is there any violence advocated in his writings. People call him an anti-Semite, but his parents were Jews who got baptized, and his negative comments towards Judaism was directed at their being part of the bourgeoisie merchant class, which they were. I agree that actual Communism has reached much havoc on this world.

Different species are not equal, but every human is of the same species, homo sapien. There are many descendants of mixed colored couples living in Latin America and elsewhere. Blacks have lower IQs, in general, but IQs may rise over time.

I read both Wells' and Johnson's books, although Wells' is outdated. They have interesting theories, and Wells, unlike Johnson, was a socialist, but he notices the achievements of the West and also notes that the achievements of Biblical Israel, other than in religion, are overemphasized. I don't think Johnson hates blacks personally and believes they can improve their civilization.
I also read Mein Kampf, which says the Jews is negroizing Europe, and that the Jew and Negro are different species than whites and do not deserve to live. I hope this site doesn't ascribe to the author's views.

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« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2006, 04:27:40 PM »


Different species are not equal, but every human is of the same species, homo sapien. There are many descendants of mixed colored couples living in Latin America and elsewhere. Blacks have lower IQs, in general.


Stating the obvious, but thanks.

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« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2006, 06:27:15 PM »
Yes Peter, I happen to agree with you in the vast majority of areas.  I too have read Mein Kempf only a very boring rabble to say the least.  Hitler’s misguiding where the product of his embracement of Theosophy and Germanic Paganism which were integral to his belief in, and staunch advocation for, Nazisms racial theme.  Hanna Newman has a fabulous book online called "The Rainbow Swastika" if you are interested.

You must know too that Marx preached violent revolution and rule by dictatorship of the proletariat, until the "Utopia" can be successfully implemented.  Marx, when speaking of Europeans, logically must have meant White due to the fact that the great…vast…majority of Europeans were white at the time of Marx, and the League of the Just’s publishing of the Manifesto. Lenin, unlike Marx, professed a slow socializing of the nations, perestroika, into final international socialism: Communism. 

I agree with you about homo-sapiens and your statements about South America, but there is a distinct difference between South America and North America.  I do realize there are many external factors involved in answering this, specifically culture and religious beliefs, but when all is said and done, nothing is equal.  Why is it wrong, or bad, to even suggest that nothing is equal even race because some Marxist professor or mainstream Socialist media professes such?  I do not, and I can extend that to the vast majority of peoples on this site, hate anyone whatsoever due to the race or the color of ones skin.  Bigotry, as you probably know is more directly accurate to mainstreams usage of "racism" or "racist" today.  Then again, if Bigotry is being intoerante of peoples beliefs, actions etc. does this also extend to the evil as Thomas Mann's "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to the evil".  I feel there is nothing wrong nor bad to identify one being superior to another.  As you know Judaism also demands the vanquishing of Amalek, which in many cases today are "tolerated" and if one identifies an Amalek they are labeled a "racist" or "intolerant", "sexist" or "closed minded".  I happen to feel that Dr. J. Phillip Rushton’s study: “Race Evolution and Behavior” although not “politically correct” to be more factually correct than what is promulgated by today’s enlightened academia. 

It is very interesting to note that H.G. Wells, along with George Bernard Shaw, Beatrice and Stanley Webb with many others, were members of the British Fabian Society which also founded “The Christian Book Club” for the purpose to undermine Christianity or the Socialization of Christianity.  The Fabian Society’s involvement in subverting the British Labor Party, turning it into a Socialist Party, which controls the BBC for example, amongst many far reaching areas of British and North American interactions: CFR, ACLU, NAACP etc..  I'd highly recommend "Fabian Freeway: The High Road To Socialism" - Rose Martin.

Not to digress from the original topic….I agree with the vast majority of your post, however having no faith whatsoever in Darwin’s Theory of Evolution or Marx’s Communism I do not believe all religions, cultures, peoples, races, animals, species: everything to be equal nor that everything on Earth came from a purple pool of slime floating in the ocean somewhere.    ;)

“I also read Mein Kampf, which says the Jews is negroizing Europe, and that the Jew and Negro are different species than whites and do not deserve to live. I hope this site doesn't ascribe to the author's views.”  

I’m very sure that if you spend time and interact with the vast majority of members you will find the answer.  We are not a bunch of ignorant left wing pagan Nazis or people demanding ethnic cleansing but people whom believe in free speech, hold common beliefs in morality, very supportive of Jewry, Judaism and Israel.  Further, we are G-d fearing people, unlike the author of the book Mein Kempf.  I wish you to know that there are Black members of the JTF Forum who whole heartedly agree with much of what is said.  They are very righteous Black people who have seen the misguidings of shvartzism, "political correctness" and wish to lead a more knowledged, moral and G-d fearing life. 

Enjoy the site.  We welcome your views.  Welcome... 
« Last Edit: December 26, 2006, 07:40:27 PM by Marzutra »
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.