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Tzvi Ben Roshel1:

--- Quote from: מאיר כהן on April 02, 2008, 12:24:03 PM ---

What about prison?

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 Eat vegetables worse comes to worse. If it happens contact a legit Rabbi and ask what you should do. But the bottom line is that thank G-d we are free men and Kosher is available, if not then eat vegetables (but wash very well so theirs no worms).

ThunderAppeal:

--- Quote from: מאיר כהן on April 02, 2008, 02:03:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: David Ben Ze'ev Aryeh on April 02, 2008, 02:00:36 PM ---
--- Quote from: מאיר כהן on April 02, 2008, 12:24:03 PM ---Trivial question, in the event we are in famine or starvation, needing to survival, is it possible for a Jew to violate the kosher laws to eat say pork or non kosher for survival purposes?

What about prison?

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For a quick answer Yes. If it is a matter of Life or Death then yes you can break Kosher Law but only Life and Death. When it is a matter of life and death then Torah Laws don't apply. But Prision it is okay to only eat what is Kosher which won't be much I know but just ask Chaim what he did in Prision he only ate what is Kosher. In Prision you don't have to break Kosher laws unless you are dying

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My father was in prison for a while on gun related crimes, not sure what he did for kosher though. He got into a lot of fights though, that's for sure.

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I do want to clarify that in russia and especially in the ukraine there was a famine the main reason it doesnt measure up to the same scale as most african nation famines is because the land eastern europe was green.
People were mostly farmers and could plant food.  But with stalin, may his name be erased, all or most industry shut down.
Food wasnt being delivered anywhere, people slaughtered their milk cows and when that was gone they slaughtered anything else that could be eaten.

The situation was most dire, on a scale that many Americans today simply cannot comprehend.

Tzvi Ben Roshel1:


- Rabbi Wallerstein talks about specifically the pig and its symbolism, in this weeks lecture Thank G-d (from about 20 minutes and on).

Tzvi Ben Roshel1:

--- Quote from: Khazan on April 01, 2008, 11:42:36 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on April 01, 2008, 02:39:52 PM ---"BTW she's a wonderful person"

Nothing personal on her, but that is a contradictary statement. If one knowingly goes agains't what G-d said, then they are not a good person, it just cannot be. For example lets say you have a person who smiles and does good deeds to all the people around him, but his wife he treats like garbage, even though she cooks, cleans and takes care of him. She doesn't do anything wrong against him, and is faithful providing whatever he needs, but he just acts like that to his wife, now tell me is that a good person, just because they put a show or are really nice to other people, but are not to those who matter the most and who give him the most? (How much more soo with G-d who provides each individual with everything, every second the heart pumps blood, every second you have air avilable while your alive, etc.

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Oh please...enough with all this idealism.  I find it ironic that the holy torah forbids eating probably one of the most tasty of meats, bacon. 


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 I didn't forbid eating pork, G-d does. I didn't (dont) even imagine that their are too many Jews who eat pork, but we shouldn't not because it is dirty or it doesn't taste good, we dont because G-d says not to do it, not to defile one's soul. By the way about what else is going on you are right it also should be stoped and G-d willing shut down complelty, G-d willing one day all the filth would be eliminated from the Holy Land and from the world in general, but a lot of this does start specifically because of the treif that people eat, which contaminates their minds and soul and makes them do furthur averot (a sin brings to it more sins).

Americanhero1:
i never liked to eat lamb i don't even like pork that much i love venison ;D

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