Jews who eat pork.

[IslamIsCancer]

I have one Jewish friend who is from Ukraine and she went to Israel last year to make an aliyah yet she eats pork and drinks alcohol.
She believes in god and all the stuff in Torah but she had a boyfriend for four years until they broke up, she is anti-muslim but of course not as much as JTFers or me. Would you consider her a Jew or shamelessly disown her just because she doesn't live by the book?
BTW she's a wonderful person one of the nicest Jews I met in my life.

[Ulli]

Please ask her to join JTF 

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

"BTW she's a wonderful person"

Nothing personal on her, but that is a contradictary statement. If one knowingly goes agains't what G-d said, then they are not a good person, it just cannot be. For example lets say you have a person who smiles and does good deeds to all the people around him, but his wife he treats like garbage, even though she cooks, cleans and takes care of him. She doesn't do anything wrong against him, and is faithful providing whatever he needs, but he just acts like that to his wife, now tell me is that a good person, just because they put a show or are really nice to other people, but are not to those who matter the most and who give him the most? (How much more soo with G-d who provides each individual with everything, every second the heart pumps blood, every second you have air avilable while your alive, etc.

[Ulli]

"BTW she's a wonderful person"

Nothing personal on her, but that is a contradictary statement. If one knowingly goes agains't what G-d said, then they are not a good person, it just cannot be. For example lets say you have a person who smiles and does good deeds to all the people around him, but his wife he treats like garbage, even though she cooks, cleans and takes care of him. She doesn't do anything wrong against him, and is faithful providing whatever he needs, but he just acts like that to his wife, now tell me is that a good person, just because they put a show or are really nice to other people, but are not to those who matter the most and who give him the most? (How much more soo with G-d who provides each individual with everything, every second the heart pumps blood, every second you have air avilable while your alive, etc.

Tzvi,

the best would be, when she would join the forum. 

[mord]

DISOWN HER WHO AM I TO DISOWN HER I'M FAR FROM PERFECT ,BUT LIKE GOLDEN PHEASANT SAID SHE SHOULD JOIN JTF

[Еврей]

She is absolutely a Jew.
Just because she doesn't follow everything 100% doesn't mean she is not Jewish.
You said she believes in G-d and everything in the Torah
So she's a little rough around the edges... still Jewish in my book! haha...

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

"BTW she's a wonderful person"

Nothing personal on her, but that is a contradictary statement. If one knowingly goes agains't what G-d said, then they are not a good person, it just cannot be. For example lets say you have a person who smiles and does good deeds to all the people around him, but his wife he treats like garbage, even though she cooks, cleans and takes care of him. She doesn't do anything wrong against him, and is faithful providing whatever he needs, but he just acts like that to his wife, now tell me is that a good person, just because they put a show or are really nice to other people, but are not to those who matter the most and who give him the most? (How much more soo with G-d who provides each individual with everything, every second the heart pumps blood, every second you have air avilable while your alive, etc.

Tzvi,

the best would be, when she would join the forum. 

 Maybe, but their are unfortunatly people (Jews) here who still eat pork. The best would be for her and everyone else listining to Rav Mizrach for example or learning from other great speakers and works (books). Let her visit ww.Torahanytime.com or for example www.Israel613.com  and learn about each subject, and wake oneself up from this deep spiritual slumber that many (each) is in on their own level.

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

   Anyway about non-Kosher food, my Rabbi said on Shabb-t (from the Chafitz Chaim) a story from the Chafitz Chaim- a Jew was takin into the nations army (non-Jewish nation in Europe, probably Russia), and he had a choice of either being in a unit where he would be able to keep Shabb-t, but not Koshrut, or in a unit where he could get kosher foods (vegetables for example), and be the cook, but have to work on the Shabb-t. He asked the Chafitz Chaim which unit to join, the Chafitz Chaim said the one which breaks Shabb-t, but keeps Koshrut, because by eating non-Kosher he would also eventually break Shabb-t and many of the other laws.
  It is very important of what a person eats, not just for health reasons which in this case is wayy secondary, but about the way a persons mind and soul will work. Eating non-Kosher makes one become a Rasha by then being attracted to and doing other crimes. That is also (like my Rav said), why on Pessah it says to punch the teeth of the Rasha (from the 4 sons), why the teeth? Because it was threw that that he ate forbidden foods, which lead him to being a Rasha.

[IslamIsCancer]

I am working on it now I hope she joins but I cant promise she is very obstinate sometimes.

[Ulli]

"BTW she's a wonderful person"

Nothing personal on her, but that is a contradictary statement. If one knowingly goes agains't what G-d said, then they are not a good person, it just cannot be. For example lets say you have a person who smiles and does good deeds to all the people around him, but his wife he treats like garbage, even though she cooks, cleans and takes care of him. She doesn't do anything wrong against him, and is faithful providing whatever he needs, but he just acts like that to his wife, now tell me is that a good person, just because they put a show or are really nice to other people, but are not to those who matter the most and who give him the most? (How much more soo with G-d who provides each individual with everything, every second the heart pumps blood, every second you have air avilable while your alive, etc.

Tzvi,

the best would be, when she would join the forum. 

 Maybe, but their are unfortunatly people (Jews) here who still eat pork. The best would be for her and everyone else listining to Rav Mizrach for example or learning from other great speakers and works (books). Let her visit ww.Torahanytime.com or for example www.Israel613.com  and learn about each subject, and wake oneself up from this deep spiritual slumber that many (each) is in on their own level.

You know I like Rabbi Mizrachi, althrough I have to disagree with him on a special point. ;

But you Jews here will get her back for shure, if she would listening to him or if she would ask our good Chaim.

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

 "althrough I have to disagree with him on a special point. ; "

I dont understand, explain here or PM.

[Americanhero1]

Why cant Jews eat pork but Christians and Catholics can ?

[HiWarp]

Isn't the phrase "Jews who eat pork" kind of like the phrase "moderate muslims"?

[Americanhero1]

But if you look at it this way pigs roll around in there fecal matter but Chickens eat theres

[White Israelite]

I ate pork for a long time (not recently), my fathers family also snuck it. What was irritating is that my cousins told me their parents wouldn't let them eat pork but they caught their parents sneaking shrimp or bacon all the time. My cousins also ate shrimp and bacon.

[Tina Greco - Melbourne]

I have one Jewish friend who is from Ukraine and she went to Israel last year to make an aliyah yet she eats pork and drinks alcohol.
She believes in G-d and all the stuff in Torah but she had a boyfriend for four years until they broke up, she is anti-muslim but of course not as much as JTFers or me. Would you consider her a Jew or shamelessly disown her just because she doesn't live by the book?
BTW she's a wonderful person one of the nicest Jews I met in my life.

Jews can drink alcohol 

Depends on what type of Jewess she is.

She sounds like she has a lot of brains, and only people that disown other Jews are not true themselves. 

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

I have one Jewish friend who is from Ukraine and she went to Israel last year to make an aliyah yet she eats pork and drinks alcohol.
She believes in G-d and all the stuff in Torah but she had a boyfriend for four years until they broke up, she is anti-muslim but of course not as much as JTFers or me. Would you consider her a Jew or shamelessly disown her just because she doesn't live by the book?
BTW she's a wonderful person one of the nicest Jews I met in my life.

There is always time to better oneself and do teshuva, and I am in no place to judge any Jew.  The only Jew I would ever judge is a traitorous one (like a Shimon Peres).  I think that's justified.  BTW Jews are not forbidden to drink alcohol.

[Americanhero1]

sorry a little off topic but has Ariel sharon died yet because you don't hear that much about him

[Khazan]

"BTW she's a wonderful person"

Nothing personal on her, but that is a contradictary statement. If one knowingly goes agains't what G-d said, then they are not a good person, it just cannot be. For example lets say you have a person who smiles and does good deeds to all the people around him, but his wife he treats like garbage, even though she cooks, cleans and takes care of him. She doesn't do anything wrong against him, and is faithful providing whatever he needs, but he just acts like that to his wife, now tell me is that a good person, just because they put a show or are really nice to other people, but are not to those who matter the most and who give him the most? (How much more soo with G-d who provides each individual with everything, every second the heart pumps blood, every second you have air avilable while your alive, etc.

Oh please...enough with all this idealism.  I find it ironic that the holy torah forbids eating probably one of the most tasty of meats, bacon. 

I've been to Israel, and if some Jew eating bacon pisses you off, then you'll probably want to stay away from Jerusalem on a Saturday night, at least the bar scene.  There was one bar that had a projection screen showing various images of hot naked Israeli ladies.  I wasn't in that bar, I saw it from the outside, for any young Chassidic Herschel to see.  Being in a bar is a whole other story...this orthodox lady on the trip was making out with some dude in the bar, and one other girl took a lucky lad back to the hotel.  As for me, I wasn't innocent either, I probably dirty danced with every broad in the bar. 

And you're kvetching about bacon. 

[ThunderAppeal]

Jews can drink alcohol 

Actually there are certain times Jewish people are commanded to drink.

Just another reason why I am glad I am Jewish.

I dont know how those stupid chechen muslims live with themselves, they are in russia
and they are forbidden to drink.  Idiots.

[ThunderAppeal]

Many russian Jewish people or Jewish people from that region are pretty far off the derek
that they have become accustomed to the habits of the surrounding population.
There is a certain amount of self-dislike for being Jewish mostly because that region has
conditioned us.  Not because we geniunely hate ourselves.

In fact in the early part of the 20th century they had a problem feeding the population
because that bull communist revolution and the idiot known as stalin couldnt figure out
how to feed the population.

Hence many people turned to slaughtering anything they could find, many Jewish people did so too.
In Torah it is permitted to eat to survive in times of crisis.
She is no longer in that times of crisis so there is no reason to eat traif.
Before I become religiously observant I used to eat pork products, more out of ignorance
than out of taste.  It is what was feed to me.
In my teens and early 20's I did not become religiously observant but I did stop
eating pork products.  I knew as a Jewish person I was forbidden and there were plenty of other
permitted foods to eat so I saw no need to transgress that command.
I was never a fan of crab, shell fish or shrimp.

Today almost everything I eat is Kosher, I eat meat mostly only on Shabbos when I am invited to
the homes of people from my Shul. 
I generally do not eat meat because I dont feel that I need to, but on Shabbos I have no problem indulging in chulent.

She will either come around to it or someone will show her the way or with Hashems help a little of both.

[דוד בן זאב אריה]

She can drink you know as long as it is Kosher. But the Pork part you really need to talk with her about the reasons why eating Pig is forbidden in the Jewish Religion

I used to eat pork about 5 years ago and I also used to work on Shabbat until 2 years ago it is a proses that takes time and I'd ask you to be patient with here. Getting Religious doesn't happen over night. It's just like someone who converts it is a process

[White Israelite]

Trivial question, in the event we are in famine or starvation, needing to survival, is it possible for a Jew to violate the kosher laws to eat say pork or non kosher for survival purposes?

What about prison?

[דוד בן זאב אריה]

Trivial question, in the event we are in famine or starvation, needing to survival, is it possible for a Jew to violate the kosher laws to eat say pork or non kosher for survival purposes?

What about prison?

For a quick answer Yes. If it is a matter of Life or Death then yes you can break Kosher Law but only Life and Death. When it is a matter of life and death then Torah Laws don't apply. But Prision it is okay to only eat what is Kosher which won't be much I know but just ask Chaim what he did in Prision he only ate what is Kosher. In Prision you don't have to break Kosher laws unless you are dying

[White Israelite]

Trivial question, in the event we are in famine or starvation, needing to survival, is it possible for a Jew to violate the kosher laws to eat say pork or non kosher for survival purposes?

What about prison?

For a quick answer Yes. If it is a matter of Life or Death then yes you can break Kosher Law but only Life and Death. When it is a matter of life and death then Torah Laws don't apply. But Prision it is okay to only eat what is Kosher which won't be much I know but just ask Chaim what he did in Prision he only ate what is Kosher. In Prision you don't have to break Kosher laws unless you are dying

My father was in prison for a while on gun related crimes, not sure what he did for kosher though. He got into a lot of fights though, that's for sure.