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Kahane-Was-Right BT:

--- Quote from: q_q_ on April 10, 2008, 08:25:04 PM ---this is charedi propaganda,
(charedi meaning very religious and cut off from the secular world)

they like to portray professors and mathematicians as idiots, and rabbis as untouchably brilliant.


--- End quote ---

Tzvi and Rabbi Lazer Brody did not do this here.  So indeed this is a rant.  I did understand what you wrote.... your intellect is not miles above me.  What is your problem exactly?

q_q_:
charedim tend to do it, you need to sharpen your antennae.
"
I'm going to share with you something that none of the math or geophysics professors in MIT or Cal Tech know, nor does anyone on the staff at NASA. Now hear this from your buddy Lazer:
"

I can see this paragraph is part of that mentality.

note that the whole article is really targetted to a young or simple audience  that knows almost no judaism and no maths.  So think how they would interpret it.. would they say "he is joking, they would not be expected to know kabbalah".  No.
They would think their buddy lazer, knows something these guys don`t know, and so the knowledge of those experts is lacking, and hey, this stuff is really interesting. This guy is far more interesting than my maths teacher.   They will be more fond of Lazer at the expense of the maths teacher, who doesn`t tell them or doesn`t know the math secrets that lazer does.

It would be amusing if kabbalistic rabbis were to get competitive, and used those methods on each other..  "I will tell you secrets that rabbi won`t tell you"..
a student says "I heard this secret from rabbi blah blah".... -beat that- !!!  Doing that to the maths teacher is fine though!

I remember when the chief rabbi of britain came to visit my school..  He kept saying "wicked" (as in wicked man).. And I seemed to be the only person offended.. realising he was patronizing us!

note- rabbi lazer brody is an intelligent and efficient guy.. but like many rabbis do(because it is successful), he has written something simplified for kids, and he has used some psychological tactics in his message.

Kahane-Was-Right BT:
"I'm going to share with you something that none of the math or geophysics professors in MIT or Cal Tech know, nor does anyone on the staff at NASA. "

lol, I thought it was a joke.  Would anyone really take that seriously?  I thought it meant:  The most advance technical expert in the world doesn't see/won't find something simplistic like this (because he has no idea or interest in kabbalah or Torah): 'message here.'

Kahane-Was-Right BT:
I mean, it's not as if he's presenting math.  Who in the world would think he really intends to show better math abilities than caltech professors by making this statement.

q_q_:
There is a haredi mindset of scoffing at the secular world, just scoffing.  Sometimes using some rhetoric or story to demonstrate superiority. You would have to see many examples to see that mentality, it is often not so subtle.  This article was more subtle, in that the most explicit thing it did was offer sweets and say "come to me not to them" - rabbi playing psychologist, and drawing people away from the secular world.  Saying this is something involving maths that you won`t hear from your maths teacher/professor..

This article is clearly the offspring of a charedi mentality you are unfamiliar with.

I am not claiming that the article demonstrates all the aspects of the charedi mentality to which I refer.. In itself, it is subtle. And just seeing that article, one should not draw conclusions. But if you have seen many examples of articles in the charedi world, you would get the jist, and see that in that context, it is blatantly obvious and anything but subtle.

My point is very clear and obvious, and it`s not a "hateful rant" as you, in your small-mindedness, "think".
 

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