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« on: January 11, 2007, 05:29:05 PM »

THE ACRIMONIOUS relationship between Latinos and African Americans in Los Angeles is growing hard to ignore. Although last weekend’s black-versus-Latino race riot at Chino state prison is unfortunately not an aberration, the Dec. 15 murder in the Harbor Gateway neighborhood of Cheryl Green, a 14-year-old African American, allegedly by members of a Latino gang, was shocking.

Yet there was nothing really new about it. Rather, the murder was a manifestation of an increasingly common trend: Latino ethnic cleansing of African Americans from multiracial neighborhoods. Just last August, federal prosecutors convicted four Latino gang members of engaging in a six-year conspiracy to assault and murder African Americans in Highland Park. During the trial, prosecutors demonstrated that African American residents (with no gang ties at all) were being terrorized in an effort to force them out of a neighborhood now perceived as Latino.

For example, one African American resident was murdered by Latino gang members as he looked for a parking space near his Highland Park home. In another case, a woman was knocked off her bicycle and her husband was threatened with a box cutter by one of the defendants, who said, “You [censored] have been here long enough.”

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Over the years, there’s also been a tendency on the part of observers to blame the conflict more on African Americans (who are often portrayed as the aggressors) than on Latinos. But although it’s certainly true that there’s plenty of blame to go around, it’s important not to ignore the effect of Latino culture and history in fueling the rift.

The fact is that racism—and anti-black racism in particular—is a pervasive and historically entrenched reality of life in Latin America and the Caribbean. More than 90% of the approximately 10 million enslaved Africans brought to the Americas were taken to Latin America and the Caribbean (by the French, Spanish and British, primarily), whereas only 4.6% were brought to the United States. By 1793, colonial Mexico had a population of 370,000 Africans (and descendants of Africans)—the largest concentration in all of Spanish America.

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White supremacy is deeply ingrained in Latin America and continues into the present. In Mexico, for instance, citizens of African descent (who are estimated to make up 1% of the population) report that they regularly experience racial harassment at the hands of local and state police, according to recent studies by Antonieta Gimeno, then of Mount Holyoke College, and Sagrario Cruz-Carretero of the University of Veracruz.

Mexican public discourse reflects the hostility toward blackness; consider such common phrases as “getting black” to denote getting angry, and “a supper of blacks” to describe a riotous gathering of people. Similarly, the word “black” is often used to mean “ugly.” It is not surprising that Mexicans who have been surveyed indicate a disinclination to marry darker-skinned partners, as reported in a 2001 study by Bobby Vaughn, an anthropology professor at Notre Dame de Namur University.

Anti-black sentiment also manifests itself in Mexican politics. During the 2001 elections, for instance, Lazaro Cardenas, a candidate for governor of the state of Michoacan, is believed to have lost substantial support among voters for having an Afro Cuban wife. Even though Cardenas had great name recognition (as the grandson of Mexico’s most popular president), he only won by 5 percentage points—largely because of the anti-black platform of his opponent, Alfredo Anaya, who said that “there is a great feeling that we want to be governed by our own race, by our own people.”

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The sociological concept of “social distance” measures the unease one ethnic or racial group has for interacting with another. Social science studies of Latino racial attitudes often indicate a preference for maintaining social distance from African Americans. And although the social distance level is largest for recent immigrants, more established communities of Latinos in the United States also show a marked social distance from African Americans.

For instance, in University of Houston sociologist Tatcho Mindiola’s 2002 survey of 600 Latinos in Houston (two-thirds of whom were Mexican, the remainder Salvadoran and Colombian) and 600 African Americans, the African Americans had substantially more positive views of Latinos than Latinos had of African Americans. Although a slim majority of the U.S.-born Latinos used positive identifiers when describing African Americans, only a minority of the foreign-born Latinos did so. One typical foreign-born Latino respondent stated: “I just don’t trust them…. The men, especially, all use drugs, and they all carry guns.”

This same study found that 46% of Latino immigrants who lived in residential neighborhoods with African Americans reported almost no interaction with them.

The social distance of Latinos from African Americans is consistently reflected in Latino responses to survey questions. In a 2000 study of residential segregation, Camille Zubrinsky Charles, a sociology professor at the University of Pennsylvania, found that Latinos were more likely to reject African Americans as neighbors than they were to reject members of other racial groups. In addition, in the 1999-2000 Lilly Survey of American Attitudes and Friendships, Latinos identified African Americans as their least desirable marriage partners, whereas African Americans proved to be more accepting of intermarriage with Latinos.

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Although some commentators have attributed the Latino hostility to African Americans to the stress of competition in the job market, a 1996 sociological study of racial group competition suggests otherwise. In a study of 477 Latinos from the 1992 Los Angeles County Social Survey, professors Lawrence Bobo, then of Harvard, and Vincent Hutchings of the University of Michigan found that underlying prejudices and existing animosities contribute to the perception that African Americans pose an economic threat—not the other way around.

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Re: Roots Of Latino/Black Anger ,
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2007, 06:57:43 AM »
These blacks will blame anybody for their misreable plight. They failed to understand why anyone doesn't want to live anywhere near them. The whole world can't be wrong. Leave it to the sociologsits to blame 'white supremecy' in mexico to be the reason for the mexs hating the darkies. When I was in mexico, I hardly saw a 'white mexican'. The reason there is no communication between the darkies and the mexs is that the black don't understand or speak spanish and the mexs do not speak nor understand ebonics. Did these professors ever take that into consideration? I don't think so. That makes too much common sense.

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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2007, 02:01:47 PM »
You ever pause to think that maybe it's not about "hatin' whitey", smoking crack, trash, ebonics, and all the typical racist drivel you read about on some KKK website? 
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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2007, 03:08:33 PM »
I have no use for the KKK I believe that they are just white trash that the world can do without. They are on the same evoluntionary scale as the blacks. They cannot reason, nor think, nor make any kind of contributions to white society. As for no one group wanting to live with blacks, why don't you tell us? Is it because of your giant intellect, your respect for your own neighborhood, your reliance on welfare, your constant complaining, your constant asking for more money and benefits (extortion), your stupid historical claims, your destruction of subways, buses,and private property? What is it? Do you have any idea what the asians think about your people? Why don't you ask them? All I can tell you, is that the blacks better get their act together or the world will pass them by. The hispanics in Calif. are starting to kill you guys like crazy, and when they find out that you blacks want money from them for 'reparations' they will really 'take it to the streets'.

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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2007, 03:35:02 PM »
Now I can't speak for every black person in the world,  but most blacks I know are not going around thinking or complaining about reparations and welfare like these racists who drum up these divisive notions would have you believe.   Who are these blacks that you are talking about?  The ones Raptorman and Tom Shelly posts pictures of on niggermainia.com?    The same ones who score 60 on an IQ test?  I'm telling you I don't know them.  I'm not denying that they don't exist , but they have no effect on my life whatsoever, and I'm black.  How is it that they have such an effect on your life that you've become so obsessed with the lowest denomination of black people?

If they have such influence to where they can air all of these "niggerisms" that you find so amusing to the entire world, it's only because either someone is paying too much attention or spending a lot of time promoting them.

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Re: Roots Of Latino/Black Anger ,
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2007, 08:51:46 PM »
"How is it that they have such an effect on your life that you've become so obsessed with the lowest denomination of black people?"

I think the answer to this is obvious. The 'lowest denomination' of people have such a deleterious effect on society, that we're all negatively effected by their behavior. Decent, righteous, caring people would be fools not to be concerned, alarmed and disgusted by the rampant crime, failed school systems and multitude of other disastrous consequences this 'lowest denomination' is responsible for and rightfully associated with.
This holds true for the 'lowest denomination' of all peoples and races. It's just that there seems to be alot more 'lowest denominators' found amongst blacks than in other segments of our society. But I'm just a JTF 'racist', what do I know ?