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What Do You Think Of Pre-Marital Intimacy And/Or Touching?

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DownwithIslam:

--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on May 22, 2008, 01:46:17 AM ---
--- Quote from: DownwithIslam on May 22, 2008, 01:38:53 AM ---Yacov, I dont think this would be implemented even with a kahanist government in Israel. Chaim said things like this would be hard for Israelis to digest.

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So what do you think about it? Are you personally against touching women?



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Yacov, I am not sure what the rules are according to the torah. Obviously having an intimate relationship outside of marriage is forbidden according to the torah but I am not sure where the line is set. I am not sure exactly what is forbidden as far as regular touching is concerned. I think Chaim said that Rabbi Kahane shook hands with women so I guess touching is permitted. Obviously touching with the intent to commit a sin is wrong.

Baltimore:

--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on May 22, 2008, 01:46:17 AM ---
So what do you think about it? Are you personally against touching women?



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No I am not.  I know that touching women was not the thing that made me have premarital sex.  All of us have natural urges and as long as we are around women we are going to want to have sex with them.  I think values need to be instilled back in to the general population. We have a media/advertising industry that sells everything with sex and sexualizes very young girls.  We have large segments of the population who regard women as female dogs because they do not have fathers to teach them otherwise. 

I would like to add that after all these years I now know that premarital sex is not a good thing but it happens all the time (I am not encouraging it).  A certain aspect of intimacy if forever lost with your future wife.

IslamIsCancer:
People will not support JTF if Chaim tries to ban things like this, Jews are not backward people they are very civilized they are basically Europeans. This kinda stuff can work in Iran but not in Israel.

IslamIsCancer:
Jews are very intelligent and enlightened people if you try to do something like this there in Israel I don't think they'll be happy.

Baltimore:

--- Quote from: IslamIsCancer on May 22, 2008, 03:01:51 AM ---People will not support JTF if Chaim tries to ban things like this, 


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I agree 100%.  I also think threads like this may freak out outsiders that may have had thoughts of joining JTF.  Oh well.

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