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Pre-Marital sex. What is your take??
DownwithIslam:
I am honestly just trying to help yacov. Sometimes when a person is too picky, he misses the opportunity when it arises. It would be a shame if yacov turned away a woman that he otherwise liked just because she wasn't a virgin.
Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on June 15, 2008, 01:56:06 AM ---Gruzinit's mother was innocent because she has sex in marriage. Any woman who had sex in marriage and got divorced is innocent, no matter how young she was and what the circumstances of the marriage were.
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Yacov, you are missing the point. Gruzinit shared something very awful and traumatic that happened in her mother's life. Yes, it is good for all people to abstain before marriage, but she was trying to raise a point--could you just agree with it for a second?
DownwithIslam:
--- Quote from: Yonathan Ben Yakov on June 15, 2008, 02:40:22 AM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on June 15, 2008, 02:39:32 AM ---
--- Quote from: DownwithIslam on June 15, 2008, 02:34:46 AM ---Yacov its impossible to know if a man is a virgin unless he has an std or something.
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That's true but righteous women should ask men if they are virgin before getting engaged just like I would ask a woman before getting engaged.
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would it bother them?
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I dont believe it would. I don't think most women would care as long as the man is not some shvartza who has slept with 5000 shvartza "women."
DownwithIslam:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on June 15, 2008, 02:42:13 AM ---
--- Quote from: Yonathan Ben Yakov on June 15, 2008, 02:40:22 AM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on June 15, 2008, 02:39:32 AM ---
--- Quote from: DownwithIslam on June 15, 2008, 02:34:46 AM ---Yacov its impossible to know if a man is a virgin unless he has an std or something.
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That's true but righteous women should ask men if they are virgins before getting engaged just like I would ask a woman before getting engaged.
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Would it bother them?
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It would if they're normal.
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I too am shaken up by gruzinits story. It is a shame that some people are crazy enough to destroy a persons life like that. What they did to gruzinits mother is a true sin that they CANNOT repent for. Lets say someone makes a mistake and sleeps around, hashem forgives if they repent. When you hurt another person, their is no way to repent unless the person himself forgives.
Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks:
I don't think it is wrong to PREFER a virgin so long as you do not RULE OUT someone who made sexual mistakes in the past that they have now repented of--either sex.
On the other hand, I think that anyone who defends a past sexual experience in any way--even if it was just one--isn't fit to marry a Muslim Nazi.
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