I would like for Horselady to reply to this:
Horselady, I stuck up for you. I thought that you were a legitimate poster who was just naive and spoke rashly and poorly. I don't know if I was wrong. A lot of people have been very suspicious of you, and even I have to admit that it's starting to get to be a stretch to see all of this as coincidental.
--You said that America is largely responsible for creating Israel, in effect implying that Jews are obligated to be loyal to the United States.
--You seem to post on a lot of sites where very few legitimate people would even want to look at, much less get involved in.
--Your language, whether or not you intended it as such, is the same that Pat Buchananites use.
I still think that you are a naive Jewish lady who is in over her head, but I am less and less sure of that. Since I still want to give you the benefit of the doubt, I'd appreciate you responding to the above thoughtfully.
Chaimfan.
Thank you for giving me the benefit of the doubt.
Let me refer back to the OP where I posted this letter, the one that got me thinking about the issue of Jews in the military.
Here are a few paragraph from the OP link that I referenced. (Maybe you should re-read the whole OP)
Attention: Where are the Jews in the U.S. military?Maj. RobLevinson
As an active duty Air Force officer currently stationed overseas, and as a Jew who grew up in the Bay Area, it is gratifying to see the overwhelming support the Bay Area Jewish community is showing for our current efforts to fight terrorism. We in the community, closely connected to Israel as we are, have understood the need to fight terror for a long time. Now, unfortunately, this need has tragically been brought home to all Americans. However, while I take great pride in the support the Jewish community is showing, a certain question keeps gnawing at me: Where are the Jews in the United States military?
Try this experiment at your next synagogue service or other Jewish gathering. Ask all the veterans to stand up. My guess is that the average age will be in the 70s as the proud veterans of World War II represent the majority. Then ask those who have a son or daughter, grandson or granddaughter who is a veteran or serving on active duty to stand up. Finally, ask those who currently know somebody serving on active duty to stand up as well. Sadly my guess is that the groups of people answering yes to the last two questions will be counted on the fingers of one hand.
Unfortunately, while Jews in the United States are over-represented in virtually every profession from law to medicine to science, they are few and far between in the armed forces of our country.....In response to your question, I do not think that whatever the US has done for Israel is the only reason or the main reason why Jews
should be loyal to the US. I am loyal and patriotic to this country because I love this country, in spite of all its faults. I didn't serve in the military myself, as it didn't seem to be an option for girls at that time. But as I've said, most of the male members of my family, as well as my husband and his family have all served. Maybe I'm naive about the thinking of people on this board concerning country and loyalty.
Admittedly I have never met fellow Jews who believed that Jews are living in the US as a kind of diaspora, waiting until they can get back to the real homeland. I have never even read anything about this kind of thinking.
Frankly, I was shocked to learn that some people here abhor the idea of serving in the military, either ours or Israel's, when it is the
military that has secured our freedoms in both countries. There's an old saying that goes something like, 'Without the second
amendment, you would never have had the first amendment.
I am not an observant Jew but I am a Jew, and have stated so on many forums.
Most of the people on the forums I post on would not want to come here. Then again, I couldn't see myself joining a Catholic or other religious esforum. I mentioned one neo-nazi site I was a member of for a very short time, simply because it was a challenge. But no matter how much historical fact or verifiable evidence I countered their arguments with, they never stopped hating Jews. They don't even hate terrorists as much as they hate Jews. It was an education, nothing more.
The sites I frequent the most now are the Ann Coulter forum and Jihad Chat. They all know I am Jewish and I post only positive things about Israel (except for the current govt) and negative things about Islam. But I berate and insult liberal Jews all the time on these boards, as I have here on the thread entitled, "I am a Jew. Why I am anti-semitic." I admonish the same liberal Jews that you do.
FYI, I hate Buchanan from way back.
Again, I encourage you to re-read the OP and you'll see where I'm coming from on this issue. It is a fair question. And it
don't mean that Jews haven't contributed to the success of this country in numbers that far exceed their population.
It doesn't mean that I hate Jews, just liberal Jews. It simply means, as the OP stated, very few Jews enlist in the
military today compared to generations before. I never expected to get flamed for asking a legitimate question.
And to those who answered by saying Jews have done a lot of other great stuff for this country, I don't deny that.
But it still doesn't negate the fact that most (not all) Jews are no longer willing to fight for their country, which has
provided the opportunities that allowed them to achieve so much success.
And maybe America hasn't supported Israel in just the way you would have liked, but no other country has been
a better friend to Israel than this one.
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