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What is the most important attribute of a good wife?
AsheDina:
There is something clearly WRONG with the picture, BEFORE Alice Toklas and Gertrude Stein- the lesbo fem-witches started the movement- THIS is what women looked like:
YOU tell me, MEN, WHAT YOU would want MORE. Shlomo, you would DEF change your postition when you marry the person who is really NOT keeping you from being bored, but becomes a contentious person. I am 100% FEMININE, and I am VERY ladylike and EXTREMELY femininie around David, it IS this, that he IS attracted to- boring- OMGOSH!!!! I am anything BUT boring. I ENJOY being the 'submissive' sex, I LOVE IT. David CHERISHES it, and treats me soooooooo Awesome. I LOVE that I am NOT 'in charge' but Paulette Anne, NOT a challenge...lol. I respect your opinion, Shlomo, it would be good for you, should you find that ideal type mate, BUT, let me WARN you- Women are cruel and heartless, and IF women could better learn their place in society- there would NOT be so much misery, it is WAY TOO TAXING to 'try to be like a man' which, unfortunately MANY women do. MOST actually, Jews, AND gentile- Holy or unholy.
This example I chose, because it was right directly BEFORE the EVIL lesbos took charge. >:( I WANT MY AMERICA BACK.
Shlomo:
--- Quote from: Paulette on August 08, 2008, 07:46:04 AM ---Barefoot, pregnant, obedient, always pretty, laughing, and cheerleading. Perfect Wife. What EVERY man is looking for.
--- End quote ---
I don't want a woman who is obedient or barefoot. While I would love to have a big family, I need a little challenge in a relationship to remain happy and would hope she worked at least before children were born. I really would become bored if it was too easy. Most women know this about men and it works the same for women. As humans, whether we like to admit it or not, we need challenge in order to be happy. I also would want her to have her own hobbies, mind, and independent self-image.
It's NOT healthy for man to dominate women. If we look at the Torah's story of creation, G-d determines that man needs a helpmate, but it is a while before Eve is created. Instead, all the birds and animals are created and Adam is asked to name them. At the conclusion of this part, the Torah tells us, "... but for Adam no fitting helpmate was found." What's the lesson we learn from this? Why did G-d say this after Adam named the animals? Why wasn't Adam happy with an animal for a helpmate?
Because an animal is subordinate to man. It's not his equal. Adam had been commanded earlier to "Have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth." So Adam could not overcome his loneliness and find true love with a subordinate being, over whom he ruled.
The false religion islam and ego teaches men must dominate women. This type of will to control comes from insecurity and low self-esteem. It's an effort to control the outside because a person has no self control - which is what the soul really wants.
Materialism teaches that what they look like on the outside is most important. While I agree there must be at least a small amount of attraction, I say this is a terrible reasons to marry.
Proverbs 31: Charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting; but a woman who fears the LORD is to be praised.
I think the Torah has it right.
AsheDina:
--- Quote from: Shlomo on August 08, 2008, 12:14:41 PM ---
--- Quote from: Paulette on August 08, 2008, 07:46:04 AM ---Barefoot, pregnant, obedient, always pretty, laughing, and cheerleading. Perfect Wife. What EVERY man is looking for.
--- End quote ---
I don't want a woman who is obedient or barefoot. While I would love to have a big family, I need a little challenge in a relationship to remain happy and would hope she worked at least before children were born. I really would become bored if it was too easy. Most women know this about men and it works the same for women. As humans, whether we like to admit it or not, we need challenge in order to be happy. I also would want her to have her own hobbies, mind, and independent self-image.
It's NOT healthy for man to dominate women. If we look at the Torah's story of creation, G-d determines that man needs a helpmate, but it is a while before Eve is created. Instead, all the birds and animals are created and Adam is asked to name them. At the conclusion of this part, the Torah tells us, "... but for Adam no fitting helpmate was found." What's the lesson we learn from this? Why did G-d say this after Adam named the animals? Why wasn't Adam happy with an animal for a helpmate?
Because an animal is subordinate to man. It's not his equal. Adam had been commanded earlier to "Have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth." So Adam could not overcome his loneliness and find true love with a subordinate being, over whom he ruled.
The false religion islam and ego teaches men must dominate women. This type of will to control comes from insecurity and low self-esteem. It's an effort to control the outside because a person has no self control - which is what the soul really wants.
Materialism teaches that what they look like on the outside is most important. While I agree there must be at least a small amount of attraction, I say this is a terrible reasons to marry.
Proverbs 31: Charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting; but a woman who fears the LORD is to be praised.
I think the Torah has it right.
--- End quote ---
I agree on most of this, Except, this is not an Islamic Nation, so its practices dont mean ANYTHING to me, call me old fashioned. I am 100% WITH the Proverbs 31 woman. I condemn Ialsm, but I AM FOR women being more submitted, they have HAPPINESS in this, they REALLY do. "Domination" is NOT of G-d. NOT. David likes me young and pretty looking, he does not even WANT me busting my A-- working like a dog, he is the ONE that WANTS to be the man, I just chose to be the "wo" man. I help him by seeking the things he desires, which are really small in the scheme of things, he DOES like when I fix myself up, keep things neat, but most importantly, act like he is 'g'-d on Earth. I am just different, is all, I am VERY VERY VERY old fashioned. I dont SEEK to be 'EQUAL' to David, matter of FACT, I KNOW I AM NOT,(he is a man, I am a woman, WE ARE NOT equal, he is smarter, stronger and can handle more) and he loves this a lot. He is VERY OLD fashioned 2 BTW.
Scriabin:
--- Quote from: Shlomo on August 08, 2008, 12:14:41 PM ---It's NOT healthy for man to dominate women.
--- End quote ---
Its not a question of dominance but of common sense.
RanterMaximus:
Intelligence all the way. I married a liberal ding bat.
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