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Offline Mifletzet

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Frumak who removed Obama's Kosel petek clip
« on: July 30, 2008, 12:17:10 PM »
Is this frumak who removed and publicised Obama's Wailing Wall note a hero or a low life - or both?!
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Re: Frumak who removed Obama's Kosel petek clip
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2008, 02:58:05 PM »
Quote from: Mifletzet on July 30, 2008, 12:17:10 PM
Is this frumak who removed and publicised Obama's Wailing Wall note a hero or a low life - or both?!

Personally I think it is VERY wrong to remove any persons prayers from the Kotel. But I will not judge anyone in this case because I was not a witness nor do I know the facts besides what is presented to me by the media. What good was accomplished by publicizing it anyway? The prayer was not outrageous as to disqualify him from the presidency. I will not think very long or hard about this. I still think it is wrong to remove prayers from the Kotel.

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Re: Frumak who removed Obama's Kosel petek clip
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2008, 04:29:57 PM »
At least Obama didn't mention Yoshki in his petek, unlike the Pope in 2000!

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Re: Frumak who removed Obama's Kosel petek clip
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2008, 04:52:04 PM »
How can one judge him negativly (The Jewish guy).

 And not only for the fact that I dont like Obama, but I also hate the fact that that place of worhsip was turned into this media thing. Cant Jewish Holy places be left alone without all these people going there, expecially with the cameras, and I didn't like even the fact that he was heckled there because why should these things go on in a place that Jews pray. 
 
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Re: Frumak who removed Obama's Kosel petek clip
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2008, 04:55:57 PM »
Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on July 30, 2008, 04:52:04 PM
How can one judge him negativly (The Jewish guy).

 And not only for the fact that I dont like Obama, but I also hate the fact that that place of worhsip was turned into this media thing. Cant Jewish Holy places be left alone without all these people going there, expecially with the cameras, and I didn't like even the fact that he was heckled there because why should these things go on in a place that Jews pray. 
 

Tzvi,

This I agree with... It was wrong to use the Kotel as a campaign stop. But are you saying that this justifies exposing his prayer?

I dont.. No matter how much I despise obama.

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You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: Frumak who removed Obama's Kosel petek clip
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2008, 11:42:27 AM »
Quote from: muman613 on July 30, 2008, 04:55:57 PM
Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on July 30, 2008, 04:52:04 PM
How can one judge him negativly (The Jewish guy).

 And not only for the fact that I dont like Obama, but I also hate the fact that that place of worhsip was turned into this media thing. Cant Jewish Holy places be left alone without all these people going there, expecially with the cameras, and I didn't like even the fact that he was heckled there because why should these things go on in a place that Jews pray. 
 

Tzvi,

 But are you saying that this justifies exposing his prayer?



 Who cares?
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The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

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http://torahanytime.com/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Yossi_Mizrachi/
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Re: Frumak who removed Obama's Kosel petek clip
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2008, 06:51:19 PM »
The guy swiping the note really does looks like an idiot - a tshachtshach with a kippa! http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1008109.html
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