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Someone translate this for me(Hebrew)
q_q_:
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on September 25, 2008, 02:15:17 PM ---Anyway 666 is not a bad # in Judaism. (I dont know much, but it *might*, be concidered something good- b/c it could do something with the perfection of the Vavim- Which represents the Torah or something like that (If it has any meaning, or maybe it doesn't at all).
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You can't just play guessing games.
The next thing you're going to guess and hope for is that 911 is a positive number in judaism. Or maybe you won't, since 911 is not a "competing" religion.
muman613:
--- Quote from: q_q_ on September 25, 2008, 04:44:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on September 25, 2008, 02:15:17 PM ---Anyway 666 is not a bad # in Judaism. (I dont know much, but it *might*, be concidered something good- b/c it could do something with the perfection of the Vavim- Which represents the Torah or something like that (If it has any meaning, or maybe it doesn't at all).
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You can't just play guessing games.
The next thing you're going to guess and hope for is that 911 is a positive number in judaism. Or maybe you won't, since 911 is not a "competing" religion.
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q_q_,
I believe Tvzi is speaking the truth. I have heard it said that because 6 represents the the mundane (as in six work days, then Shabbat) repeated three times represents the physical world.
Let me see if I can find a source to back up my assertion:
http://ohr.edu/ask/ask277.htm
Dear Professor Bar-Lev and M. Brinn,
Oh, I can't tell you the answer to your question....It's a mystical secret!
Just kidding. Sort of. The truth is that the key to mystical secrets are not in any book, they're in your heart. Even if someone "reveals" a "kabbalistic secret," it remains a secret as long as you are not able to understand it. (So have no fear: The secrets of Kabbala are perfectly safe with Madonna.) But I will explain as much as I know on the subject:
The number 666 has significance as the numerical value of the Hebrew verse: "Ata yigdal na koach Ado-nai -- Now, I pray, let the Power of my Lord be great." (Numbers 14:17). This was Moshe's prayer invoking Divine Mercy on behalf of the Jewish People.
"Mosad Hayesod" cites the Vilna Gaon's commentary on the Zohar that "the number 666 contains hidden within it exalted and lofty messianic potential." No other explanation is offered there.
We do know that the number six represents the physical world. The Torah describes the creation of the universe as a six part, six day, process. Our ancient sources describe the universe as emanating in six directions -- north, south, east, west, up, down -- from a central point. All physical space and all physical objects have these six dimensions.
666 is six repeated three times. Repeating a concept three times represents the affirmation and strength of that concept. The number 666 could thus represent the strength and perfection of the physical world, which Judaism teaches will occur in the messianic era, when the physical world will reach its ultimate purpose, to be a vehicle through which the created experience the Creator.
I hope this answers what Judaism thinks of 666...
muman613
Ulli:
Good points Muman, but would be 777 not the more suitable number for the Messianic area?
q_q_:
suprising..
that's certainly a better basis than guessing games
interestingly the vilna gaon in his commentary on the zohar, finds a passage about "rome" trembling, 3 towers falling, and said the date is wrong. He corrected the date and he corrected it to the hebrew date that corresponded to 9/11 in 2001.
muman613:
--- Quote from: Pheasant on September 25, 2008, 05:10:47 PM ---Good points Muman, but would be 777 not the more suitable number for the Messianic area?
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Shalom Pheasant,
Maybe so, but I would really think 888 would be the #. 8 is beyond all physicality and it represents miracles. But according to my research it was the Vilna Gaon who said that 666 has messianic potential. I will look for more sources for this...
http://ohr.edu/ask_db/ask_main.php/274/Q1/
--- Quote ---Dear Stephanie,
Meah Shearim is the name of a Jerusalem neighborhood about a ten minute walk from where I am sitting!
"Meah Shearim" means "a hundred-fold" or "a hundred gates." It is one of the oldest Jerusalem neighborhoods outside the walls of the old city, founded by devoutly orthodox Jews in the 19th century.
It was originally settled by just over 100 families who signed up to be part of the new "colony," and they took the name "Meah Shearim" from the weekly Torah reading. The signing occurred during "Parashat Toldot," the week when the Torah portion read in synagogues tells of Isaac's great success: "He planted in that land and found in that (famine) year a hundred-fold (of the estimated produce), for G-d had blessed him." (Genesis 26) Thus, the place was named Meah Shearim, indicating Divine blessing 100 times the expected.
This name was also chosen due to the founders' awareness of kabbalah, Jewish mysticism. The numerical value of the words Meah Shearim equals 666, which has esoteric and kabbalistic meaning in Judaism, as indicated by the Vilna Gaon in his commentary to the Zohar.
Stephanie, thank you for your question! Because of it, I was able to learn some fascinating new insights into a neighborhood which I can see from my window.
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muman613
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