Oh that is a conversation ...
Imo none of this persons have made a valid point. The one talks about the rise and fall of empires and the other rests on "his" laurels from the past.
The best were the points with the quranimal "Arab" empire and the Aboriginals.
First one let Jews and Christians work for them and to the second Aboriginal argument I can only answer: What a fool! You don't compare yourself with stone-age cultures, but with developed cultures. The righteous man always looks up and tries to better himself and he don't kick the poor people of lesser culture to feel better.
Imo this is bad character.