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Statehood for Palestine? Take a good look
« on: February 14, 2007, 04:44:17 PM »
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Statehood for Palestine? Take a good look

By Jeff Jacoby, Globe Columnist  |  February 14, 2007

THE TONG WAR between Fatah and Hamas was raging last month when Palestinian Authority leader Mahmoud Abbas addressed a Fatah rally in Ramallah. "The priority for me is preserving national unity and preventing internal fighting," he told the crowd on Jan. 11. "Shooting at your brother is forbidden."

But Abbas made clear it was only intra-Palestinian bloodshed he opposed. Attacking Jews was still OK.

"We should put our internal fighting aside and raise our rifles only against the Israeli occupation," he said, according to a WorldNetDaily report. He praised archterrorist Ahmed Yassin, the co-founder of Hamas who was killed by Israel in 2004. For good measure, he threw in some anti-Semitic boilerplate: "The sons of Israel are mentioned as those who are corrupting humanity on earth."

Most media accounts of the Fatah rally mentioned only Abbas's "unity" remarks, leaving out the gamier stuff about raising rifles against the humanity-corrupters (AP headline: "Abbas calls for respect at Fatah rally"). In similar fashion, news reports have rarely pointed out that in the Gaza Strip, where the Fatah-Hamas street battles have taken place, the "occupation" ended in August 2005, when Israel razed 21 Jewish settlements and expelled every Jew from the territory. For all intents and purposes, there has been a sovereign Palestinian state in Gaza for the past 18 months. The anarchy and violence, the kidnappings, the myriad of armed gangs -- that is the authentic face of Palestinian statehood. Take a good look.

"In the State of Palestine," writes the Jerusalem Post's Caroline Glick, "two-year-olds are killed and no one cares. Children are woken up in the middle of the night and murdered in front of their parents. Worshipers in mosques are gunned down by terrorists who attend competing mosques. . . . In the State of Palestine, women are stripped naked and forced to march in the streets to humiliate their husbands. Ambulances are stopped on the way to hospitals and the wounded are shot in cold blood."

The wonder is not that the Palestinian Authority seethes with violence and instability; there are other places too where bloodshed is the daily fare. The wonder is not that the Palestinians, who receive copious amounts of international aid -- more than $1.2 billion last year from Western governments alone -- channel so much of their resources into weapons and warfare. The wonder is that so many voices still push for a Palestinian state.

But has any population ever been less suited for statehood than the Palestinians? From the terrorists they choose as leaders to the jihad promoted in their schools, their culture is drenched in violence and hatred. Each time the world has offered them sovereignty -- an offer that the Kurds or the Chechens or the Tibetans would leap at -- the Palestinians have opted instead for bloodshed and rejectionism.

"What do you want more," a frustrated Shimon Peres once asked Yasser Arafat, "a Palestinian state or a Palestinian struggle?" Over and over, Palestinians have chosen the "struggle." The very essence of Palestinian national identity is a hunger for Israel's destruction. Both the Fatah and Hamas charters call for the obliteration of the Jewish state through bloodshed. A two-state solution -- Israel and Palestine living peacefully side-by-side -- is emphatically not what the Palestinians seek. No amount of Israeli concessions or American wheedling or Quartet cajoling is likely to change that.

So why does the Bush administration continue to pretend otherwise?

"There is simply no reason to avoid the subject of how we get to a Palestinian state," Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice blithely asserted Feb. 2, even as the best reason to do so -- the Palestinians' unfitness for self-government -- was on display in Gaza's streets. Last week Abbas agreed to form a "unity" government with Hamas, making any prospect of peace with Israel more remote. Yet next week Rice will host a summit meeting with Abbas and Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, and there will be a fresh flood of empty words about peace and statehood.

James Woolsey, who served as director of central intelligence under President Clinton, said recently that it would take "many decades" before Palestinian society is civilized enough for statehood.

Even some Palestinians might agree. "Everyone here is disgusted by what's happening in the Gaza Strip," Shireen Atiyeh, 30, a Palestinian Authority government worker, told the Jerusalem Post. "We are telling the world that we don't deserve a state. . . Today I'm ashamed to say that I'm a Palestinian."

When will it be time to consider statehood for Palestine? When it is led by people like her.

Jeff Jacoby's e-mail address is [email protected]

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Re: Statehood for Palestine? Take a good look
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2007, 05:47:38 PM »
There is NO "Palestine".  '1922-23 was the LAST Year of "Palestine".  I wish this farce would end and Israel would throw out all of these Arab/Muslim squatters!  My 2 cents.  Terrorists on the Terrorists on the Left and Terrorists on the Islamic Right...  End is Terrorists...  ".....One Kills Terrorists."
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2007, 06:18:49 PM »
There is NO "Palestine".  '1922-23 was the LAST Year of "Palestine".  I wish this farce would end and Israel would throw out all of these Arab/Muslim squatters!  My 2 cents.  Terrorists on the Terrorists on the Left and Terrorists on the Islamic Right...  End is Terrorists...  ".....One Kills Terrorists."

Did I miss something with regard to the "1922-23 was the LAST Year of "Palestine" quote?

"There is NO 'Palestine'" is not 100% accurate. There is no state or country known as "Palestine". There never has been and, with HaShem's blessing, never will be. However, there is a region known as "Palestine". There has been since the Romans renamed Eretz Israel.

This reminds me of a funny joke an Israeli sent me last year (I changed the spelling to "Balestinian" since that's the way they pronounce their own fabricated name and the joke reads more smoothly without the conversion to "PLO/Hamas Arab Muslim Nazi"):

Englishman, Frenchman And "Balestinian"

One day three men came into the presence of HaShem - an Englishman, a Frenchman and a Balestinian.
They all had a question for Him.

The Englishman came first and asked when the British Empire would be restored.
HaShem answered, "In the year 2250".
The Englishman replied, "Hm...not in my lifetime".

Next, the Frenchman asked when the glory of the Napoleanic age would be restored.
HaShem answered, "In the year 2465".
The Frenchman replied, "Hm...not in my lifetime".

Finally, the Balestinian asked when the entire land of Israel would fly the Balestinian flag.
HaShem replied, "Hm...not in My Lifetime!"

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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2007, 08:43:34 PM »
Very good.  I was particularly speaking about the Mandate "Palestine" or the Modern British Invention of "Palestine", but you are 100% correct.  ;)
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2007, 12:11:47 AM »
A nation for a people that does not exist.  ::) Good idea.  ::) How bout we make Oz a nation? Last time I checked, at least the Cowardly Lion and Tinman didn't blow up any innocent babies.

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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2007, 09:55:27 AM »
That is true... but unfortunately the US Government, the powers that be in the EU (with their Communist allies) as well the Bolsheviks in Erets are all about bending the Jew over once again.  The sad thing is that those in Eretz are too tired from being continually lied to, manipulated and suffering a slow holocaust that they are putting up no fight to liberate the Knesset and the Supreme Court from these Socialist traitor scum.  It is very sad really.  I wish a very quick civil war would happen and Israel will be free from these Marxist bastards!!
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.