Once more, I differ with most of JTF, including Chaim, on this issue. It's fruitless and intellecutally self-deceptive to constantly rail against the evil cabal of Israeli leaders who have held the nation of Israel hostage with their Bolshevik tyranny (even if, strictly speaking, that is true, which it is) as if they are the only problem. The Israeli public tolerates, and in fact even supports, this evil. Why? The answer is secularism. I think we all came to that answer in the thread about Chaim wanting a righteous monarch as the ideal form of government in Israel. In their secularism, Israeli Jews have taken upon themselves nonexistent "rights" that not only cannot be found in the Bible, but are more often than not completely contrary to what Torah teaches--the prime example, in that thread, being the so-called "sacred right to wear bikinis" (in the words of Zelhar). Most Israelis are still more concerned with selfish things--the aforementioned bikinis, being prosperous, being able to retire early, having "cheap" Arab labor, not being completely hated by the world--than they are either terrorism or Torah. That's a tragedy and a travesty. When material things become the focus of life, human life is cheapened. Most Israelis are willing to tolerate some amount of Jewish blood being spilled, because they assume that this is an unavoidable cost of making "peace". Without a dynamic personal faith in G-d, they don't believe that He will grant them the victory against every enemy, and view either appeasement, or relying completely on the United States, as their only hope for surviving and achieving said "peace". Israelis, and Jews by nature, don't want war. Jews and Christians don't live, breathe, eat, and sleep bloodshed like their archenemies the Muzzies and Odinists do. The problem is that they, because of their secularism and a lack of understanding both of Torah's commandments to exterminate Amalek and G-d's promises to bless them and grant them miraculous victories, can't distinguish justifiable warfare from jihadist mass murder. I don't see much hope in Israel being saved outside of it becoming religious. One of the things Chaim really ought to do more is directly call out average Israelis to repent of the vile sins of surrenderism/appeasement and turn to G-d.