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Paying women to have tubes tied.
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
From Machonshilo (was brousing now, and remembered this topic-)
Can I neuter my dog?
Written by Webmaster
I am afraid I know of no heter to neuter your dog.
This issur is explicit in the Tora (Vayikra 22:24), and includes
all animals as well as humans, see Rambam MT, Issure Bi'a 16:7 (or 16:10 in Vilna edition). The punishment for so doing, in normal times, is malkuth (a lashing). Although dogs
may seem to suffer when other dogs are in heat, this is the way of the
world as HASHEM has created it. We cannot consider the normal
behavior of dogs to be tzsa'ar ba'le hayim.
But what would be interesting is to ask about a female- since a female doesn't have an obligation to have children, but the obligation is on the male.
Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks:
--- Quote from: Lubab on September 26, 2008, 12:13:50 PM ---You are putting the cart before the horse. Where there is people, there is a need for production and there will be jobs.
People who live an Alaska are quite happy, actually. But I was just using that as an example. You could also fit the entire U.S. population in Texas or Montana if need be.
--- End quote ---
You can't make jobs out of thin air, as this economy shows us more and more by the day. It's easier to have nastier depressions in a large population because a large labor pool means more competition for scarce jobs. Therefore, just packing everybody like sardines into areas simply to have room to make more people doesn't solve anything, even if we are ignoring the very real and severe quality-of-life issues.
Lisa:
C.F., the picture on the website of a beautiful young woman in the prime of her life, with a man by her side creeped me out. I don't like the idea of something so permanent.
Still I don't think it's a question of either permanent sterility or abortions.
If women don't want babies, they shouldn't have sex. As for idiots who refuse to take responsibility for their actions, they need to get it through their thick heads that unprotected intercourse any time anywhere is a luxury they can't afford.
Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks:
--- Quote from: Lisa on September 26, 2008, 07:00:38 PM ---If women don't want babies, they shouldn't have sex. As for idiots who refuse to take responsibility for their actions, they need to get it through their thick heads that unprotected intercourse any time anywhere is a luxury they can't afford.
--- End quote ---
I am aware that some religions teach that every single sexual act must be tied to procreation, and respect those who feel this way, but surely you wouldn't want to impose your anti-sterilization beliefs on all. Sterilization is a lot more responsible than more fallible means of contraception, and really leads the people to think deeply about their future, rather than what will get them through the moment. This can't be fairly compared to handing out condoms or the Pill to kids.
Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks:
--- Quote from: Lisa on September 26, 2008, 07:00:38 PM ---C.F., the picture on the website of a beautiful young woman in the prime of her life, with a man by her side creeped me out. I don't like the idea of something so permanent.
--- End quote ---
This only assumes that every single person was intended to bear biological children. On this issue I disagree with most in this organization, admittedly, but leaving that aside--what is wrong with two mature, responsible people making the right decision for themselves?
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