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FINALLY NH FELL TO OBAMA TOO! Palin's good performance won't help McCain

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Aviva:
Rasmussen polls confirms McCain is loosing in NH by 10 points! It is very very bad!
Palin's excellent [performance will not help much, the economic crisis mocked McCain for good. he can not bounce back-in 30 days.
the only way is Israel to attack on Iran! Israel will haev to do it anyway because if obama wins they are long gone.
if Israel plans to attack after the election before Obama gets in to the office  that is a stupid plan. because Obama will force Israel to obey his rules , he won't be Bush!
ATTACK IRAN NOW! BUSH  WENT TO IARQ BECAUSE OF ISRAEL, ISRAEL OWES THE REPUBLICANS BIG TIME
DO NOT CHICKEN OUT

q_q_:

--- Quote from: Aviva on October 03, 2008, 11:10:58 AM ---Rasmussen polls confirms McCain is loosing in NH by 10 points! It is very very bad!
Palin's excellent [performance will not help much, the economic crisis mocked McCain for good. he can not bounce back-in 30 days.
the only way is Israel to attack on Iran! Israel will haev to do it anyway because if obama wins they are long gone.
if Israel plans to attack after the election before Obama gets in to the office  that is a stupid plan. because Obama will force Israel to obey his rules , he won't be Bush!
ATTACK IRAN NOW! BUSH  WENT TO IARQ BECAUSE OF ISRAEL, ISRAEL OWES THE REPUBLICANS BIG TIME
DO NOT CHICKEN OUT

--- End quote ---

nobody really opposed america for starting in iraq.. the thing they didn't like was staying there and american soldiers dying to bring peace there because they think they owe it to the arabs!!

they haven't been staying in iraq for israel.

But anyhow, it would be good if israel takes out iran's semi-baked nuclear reactor

Aviva:
One of the major reasons president Bush to go to Iraq is Israel! Saddam Hussein was  funding suicide bombers to blow up themselves in Israel and Israel begged US to for help!
Oil and Israel  what else it could be to go to Iraq?
Anyway, Israel will be in a deep hole regardless if Obama wins. So their best chance to survive without giving in is ONLY to be effective and be a gamechanger now. After the election before Obama gets into the office if they attack on Iran , it will be worse for Israel.
Another way to go is live by giving in to Palestine and withdraw from the so called occupied soil! Obama will demand Israel to do that!

Aviva:
The bailout bill passes from the house , may be McCain can put behind the economic collapse and start going up at pols,
WE shall see! I am not that hopeful , the damage has been done , Obama already is ahead! But we can work hard , make calls , donate and ask our local temples to endorse senator McCain as Catholic churches did ,

q_q_:

--- Quote from: Aviva on October 03, 2008, 12:13:47 PM ---One of the major reasons president Bush to go to Iraq is Israel! Saddam Hussein was  funding suicide bombers to blow up themselves in Israel and Israel begged US to for help!
Oil and Israel  what else it could be to go to Iraq?

--- End quote ---

Oil and WMD..

Though WMD was based on faulty intelligence, they thought he had them when they went in.


--- Quote from: Aviva on October 03, 2008, 12:13:47 PM ---Anyway, Israel will be in a deep hole regardless if Obama wins. So their best chance to survive without giving in is ONLY to be effective and be a gamechanger now. After the election before Obama gets into the office if they attack on Iran , it will be worse for Israel.
Another way to go is live by giving in to Palestine and withdraw from the so called occupied soil! Obama will demand Israel to do that!

--- End quote ---

if israel withdrew from the "west bank", the threat of iran wouldn't go away.

(and obviously the "palestinians" wouldn't change their mission to remove israel)

I've thought for a while that a possible solution, a stupid one, is to withdraw as far as you're willing to.. Then say that that is as far as you'll go, no more. Then the arabs start a war, and lose.  And Israel smashes even more than in 1967, and gets rid of them from the land.    Unfortunately with a nuclear iran and potentially other well armed arab countries, that may not be an option anymore, or for much longer.
Unilateral withdrawal is essentially withdrawing to the end point, but the idiot govt want to live with them. So I don't know if they'd fight the war that follows, like a war.

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