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White Israelite:
Cool? Well, I think we need to defeat stereotypes of Jews. Most people think of Jews as scrawny weak bookworms who either become a lawyer, accountant, or dentist. I'd like to see a little more modernization without going against Torah. I think sometimes this scares away younger members. I'd like to see some sort of hobbies thread or meetup for Jews involving some sort of activity. Maybe a fishing trip or camping trip, something like that (if it's not forbidden). I'd like to see another JDL camp (legal), something to get youth interested. Positive values, I always feel like the forums vastly negative and although there is a lot of negative, we need to focus on positive things in life to keep our sanity.

I think if we had some subjects about nature, hobbies, computers, science would give us some more diverse topics as it's all bundled into the general section right now.

q_q_:

--- Quote from: White Israelite on October 07, 2008, 01:54:22 PM ---Cool? Well, I think we need to defeat stereotypes of Jews. Most people think of Jews as scrawny weak bookworms who either become a lawyer, accountant, or dentist. I'd like to see a little more modernization without going against Torah. I think sometimes this scares away younger members. I'd like to see some sort of hobbies thread or meetup for Jews involving some sort of activity. Maybe a fishing trip or camping trip, something like that (if it's not forbidden). I'd like to see another JDL camp (legal), something to get youth interested. Positive values, I always feel like the forums vastly negative and although there is a lot of negative, we need to focus on positive things in life to keep our sanity.

I think if we had some subjects about nature, hobbies, computers, science would give us some more diverse topics as it's all bundled into the general section right now.

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a few arguments..

Considering the argument that - JTF is a religious-political organisation and this would detract from our goals..

I think it wouldn't detract.  The JTF forum is more, a community of lke minded people. .
Naturally, there are threads on many subjects that you could say detract.

OTOH, if media hear chaim's message and look at the forum, then having all those other sections would detract.

And, the concept of jewish places to discuss X Y and Z, is somewhat flawed in that the reality is that these disciplines exist in the gentile world. That's where all the resources are, that's how you make it. 
It can be an excuse to bring jews together,  but then the computers or mma or whatever is an excuse, it's not serious.

White Israelite:

--- Quote from: q_q_ on October 07, 2008, 02:23:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: White Israelite on October 07, 2008, 01:54:22 PM ---Cool? Well, I think we need to defeat stereotypes of Jews. Most people think of Jews as scrawny weak bookworms who either become a lawyer, accountant, or dentist. I'd like to see a little more modernization without going against Torah. I think sometimes this scares away younger members. I'd like to see some sort of hobbies thread or meetup for Jews involving some sort of activity. Maybe a fishing trip or camping trip, something like that (if it's not forbidden). I'd like to see another JDL camp (legal), something to get youth interested. Positive values, I always feel like the forums vastly negative and although there is a lot of negative, we need to focus on positive things in life to keep our sanity.

I think if we had some subjects about nature, hobbies, computers, science would give us some more diverse topics as it's all bundled into the general section right now.

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a few arguments..

Considering the argument that - JTF is a religious-political organisation and this would detract from our goals..

I think it wouldn't detract.  The JTF forum is more, a community of lke minded people. .
Naturally, there are threads on many subjects that you could say detract.

OTOH, if media hear chaim's message and look at the forum, then having all those other sections would detract.

And, the concept of jewish places to discuss X Y and Z, is somewhat flawed in that the reality is that these disciplines exist in the gentile world. That's where all the resources are, that's how you make it. 
It can be an excuse to bring jews together,  but then the computers or mma or whatever is an excuse, it's not serious.


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Your right, however it does get people interested. I brought individuals over who were interested primarily in guns and firearm ownership and now they are reading other sections of the forum and getting involved. It's like marketing and promotions, you have to have a way to get people interested and give them "samples" before serving the main course. It's easier conditioning.

q_q_:

--- Quote from: White Israelite on October 07, 2008, 02:31:25 PM ---Your right, however it does get people interested. I brought individuals over who were interested primarily in guns and firearm ownership and now they are reading other sections of the forum and getting involved. It's like marketing and promotions, you have to have a way to get people interested and give them "samples" before serving the main course. It's easier conditioning.

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there are pros and cons.

maybe after the election things will be a bit different, but it looks like chaim wants to focus on obama.

I do miss the healthy eating section.

angryChineseKahanist:

--- Quote from: White Israelite on October 07, 2008, 01:54:22 PM ---Cool? Well, I think we need to defeat stereotypes of Jews. Most people think of Jews as scrawny weak bookworms who either become a lawyer, accountant, or dentist. I'd like to see a little more modernization without going against Torah. I think sometimes this scares away younger members. I'd like to see some sort of hobbies thread or meetup for Jews involving some sort of activity. Maybe a fishing trip or camping trip, something like that (if it's not forbidden). I'd like to see another JDL camp (legal), something to get youth interested. Positive values, I always feel like the forums vastly negative and although there is a lot of negative, we need to focus on positive things in life to keep our sanity.

I think if we had some subjects about nature, hobbies, computers, science would give us some more diverse topics as it's all bundled into the general section right now.

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Well, our mord looks quite large.
mord is jewish, right?

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