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What do people here think of Germans?
Vito:
How's Maine doing anyway? I was suppose to take a ride up there with my bike this summer, couldn't make it. Any recommended spots for moose hunting? : D
Dr. Dan:
--- Quote from: mainestategop on October 08, 2008, 04:19:41 PM ---I was wondering what people here on JTF thinks of Germans in general. I noticed a lot of resentment against them, no doubt due to the holocaust and World War II. I was also wondering if it is okay for Jews and righteous gentiles like myself to attend Oktoberfest? Theres a church down in Augusta celebrating and was invited to attend.
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It depends on the individual. We cherish righteous people of all races and creeds and religions and nations.
We hate evil people and evil behavior.
As far as Germany..they perpetrated the most horrible murderous actions against the Jews murdering 6 MILLION!!!!!!! Till this day they are unapologetic about it since they support Islamic nations and encourage Israel to surrender...therefore, Germany as a nation, JTF will never forgive nor forget.
But once again, individual Germans who are righteous, we love like brothers..IT's a person by person basis.
zachor_ve_kavod:
I do not have a problem with German people per se, particularly those who were not around during the war. I am somewhat more suspicious of Germans who may have been tainted by the period. I do try however, to be fair with people. So I don't have a real problem with Germans.
On the other hand, I do have a problem with Germany. Because it was Germany as an entity that our people, our language, and our culture. I think Germany will be forever cursed for what it did to Jewry. How does this translate into day to day life? I choose not to invest in Germany, or visit it, or celebrate its festivals. I neither forget nor forgive Germany, nor will I ever.
This may seem abstract because like I said, I don't have a problem with German people. But that is for me to deal with.
briann:
--- Quote from: C.F. on October 08, 2008, 04:52:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: briann on October 08, 2008, 04:46:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: ProJewChristian on October 08, 2008, 04:24:02 PM ---We have Germans on this site. I believe Pheasant is a German. So is George W Bush the Hero
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I believe that German's represent the largest nationality in America. Something like 30%.
BTW, German central Europe has an extraordinary history, that shouldn't be trivialized by what Hitler did. I think that there is evil everywhere... and because of ignorance and extraordinary circumstances, evil can gain political control.
Just like with Obama... many who support him... arent evil, they are ignorant. They just don't think its even a possibility that Obama has been a member of a Black supremacist Church. I dont think its fair to say that the USA is evil if he is elected. We are just ignorant and are fearful, which is what both Obama and Hilter feed upon.
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I have to disagree. The history of Germany and the Teutonic people is one of satanic racism (derived from their pagan Odinism) and malevolent anti-Semitism--which did not start with, but was certainly typified by, Martin Luther some 500 years ago (and 400 years before Hitler ys"vz). Adolf Hitler won with nearly 100% of the German popular vote in a free and unfettered election (remember, this was Weimar Germany at the time--a completely modern and fair constitutional democracy) specifically because he campaigned on the issue of anti-Semitism and promised to put a stop to the horrible Jews who were swindling the German Gentiles and "enslaving" them. The German public just ate this up. They had never had a candidate before who said so very openly everything they had always felt and wished for.
Americans for Obama, on the other hand, are divided between those who are truly evil and are voting for him because they know what he stands for (i.e. all his black and Arab supporters and at least a third of his white supporters) and those who are stupid, selfish, greedy, and ignorant and support him because they actually believe John McCain and Sarah Palin are responsible for the bank meltdown and think that Obama will bring "change". So, I think it's apples and oranges.
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I disagree. Again... ALL of Europe and Russia was horrifically anti-semitic in its past. Russia was in my opinion the worst.
However... Germany was by far the most accepting of Jews in Central Europe around the turn of the century, and this is why so many Jews emigrated there during this time (which is one of the horrific ironies of the Third Reich)
My grandmother's family lived in Germany before its collapse, and they had fairly good treatment there, as compared with their previous generation, that lived in Russia.
By the way, to this day.... I will always be skeptical of any nationalist move coming from Germany or Russia I can't say that about any other western country.
Ulli:
I think there is a curse, because of the holocaust. It is obvious.
The majority of the people seem to be unable to live without big gouvernment and socialism. And this attitude always to tell people what they have to do. Even to tell the Israeli gouvernment, after all what happened, what is the proper way. It is shameless.
Imo all this problems, that Europe in general and Germany particular have are founded in the fundamental rejection of God and in the twisting of the natural economic order.
They have a lot of weird ideas how to redistribute the wealth, how to do social engeneering, how to force people what they have to believe and they think this will bring them the garden of eden in this world.
But through this they have broken western civilisation and have created a zoo.
Even a lot of people who reject Islam, are doing this not because it is insane and criminal, but because Islam, of course only theoretically and outwardly, is rejecting immoral behaviour.
I really don't know whom I despise more. The murder-muslims or the gay, prostitution & feminist leftist activists who fight against it in order to fight for their immoral behaviour.
I have given up to convince people about this. My loyality to this bolschewist state is zero.
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