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look can somebody please explain,
tonycali99:
why is jtf so against gay's? i dont like the lifestyle but i dont hate it or them. i have plenty of gay friend's and some of them support israel and are zioneist's. i dont like it when they sleep around and hit bathouses and do porn and stuff but thats a small minority of them. most are decent people and so long as they support israel and americas war on terror i donot care what they do in bed.
thanks tony from california.
tonycali99:
also guy's (i think hayam is one of you right?), please take into acount the fact that gay's and jew's share so much in common, pursucuted and hated in all countrie's and sometimes murdered by mob's. i think jtf and rightous (not all!) gay's should be allies or if not just then get along.
Trumpeldor:
First off, please do not call them 'gays' because 'gay' means 'happy' and homosexuals cannot be happy.
Second, homosexuality is considered sinful by Judaism, Christianity, and most people of most faiths. Not only is it sinful, but it is unhealthy and biologically unnatural.
Third, JTF does not oppose homosexuals because they are homosexual. Their lifestyle is opposed because it is anti-family and generally immoral. If they support Israel, that is great. If they support America, that is wonderful. JTF does not categorically oppose homosexuals. It opposes homosexuality.
I happen to have the libertarian perspective on this issue. Personally I believe individuals have the right to do what they want to do in the privacy of their own homes. That is what freedom is and I do not want to impose my morality on them, even if I disagree. Nonetheless, the homosexual agenda is no longer behind closed doors.
Elements of Judaism have allowed openly homosexual Rabbis. There are homosexual pride parades in Israel, the Holy Land. Homosexuality causes the spread of AIDS and billions of tax dollars have been wasted teaching monkeys in Africa how to use a condom. Our children are being taught in kindergarten that it is ok to have two mommies and two daddies. Homosexual marriage has been legalized by activist judges in several states even though ballot initiatives show that the OVERWHELMING majority of people oppose its legalization.
MassuhDGoodName:
JUDAISM CONDEMNS ALL FORMS OF SEXUAL ACTIVITY EXCEPT THOSE PROSCRIBED BETWEEN MAN AND WIFE IN THE TORAH.
HOMOSEXUALITY IS A DEGENERATE AND ABNORMAL PRACTICE; THE WIDESPREAD AND COMMON NORM WORLDWIDE IN ANCIENT TIMES AMONG THE PAGANS AND IDOLATORS.
WE JEWS WERE THE FIRST AND ONLY PEOPLE IN HISTORY TO DECLARE HOMOSEXUALITY AN ABOMINATION; OUR LAWS CONCERNING IT WERE REVEALED DIRECTLY TO MOSES BY THE ONE TRUE G-D OF THE UNIVERSE.
AS SUCH, WE JEWS HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON WITH THOSE WHO OF THEIR OWN FREE WILL PRACTICE SEXUAL DEGENERACY.
AND...BEFORE YOU LAY THE ARGUMENT ON US THAT "HOMOSEXUALS ARE BORN THAT WAY...SO WE MUST BE TOLERANT"; WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY LAYING THIS ARGUMENT DOWN ON US..."IT'S MERELY A "CHOICE" OF LIFESTYLES" (this of course, totally negating the argument that homosexuals are born that way and have no choice), I MUST ASK THESE QUESTIONS:
-DO MURDERERS "CHOOSE" TO MURDER; OR ARE MURDERERS "BORN THAT WAY"?
-IF THEY ARE "BORN AS MURDERERS", THEN SHOULDN'T THEIR BEHAVIOR BE "TOLERATED" BY EVERYONE?...AFTER ALL, IT'S A "NATURAL" ACTIVITY, IS IT NOT?
-IF, INSTEAD, MURDERERS "CHOOSE" TO COMMIT MURDER, MUST WE NOT AS A SOCIETY ACCEPT AND "BE TOLERANT" OF THEIR "MERE CHOICE OF LIFESTYLES"?...
AFTER ALL, WHO'S TO JUDGE WHAT'S RIGHT AND WRONG ANYWAY?...
JUST BECAUSE YOU THINK A MURDERER SHOULD NOT KILL YOU, DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE REST OF US NECESSARILY FEEL THAT HE SHOULDN'T KILL YOU...
AFTER ALL, THAT WOULD BE VERY "DEMOCRATIC" IF THE MAJORITY VOTES TO LET YOU BE MURDERED BY SOMEONE OF AN "ALTERNATIVE LIFESTYLE, RIGHT?...
AND THAT WOULD BE THE GREATEST GOOD...BECAUSE THERE REALLY IS NO SUPREME BEING OR RIGHT OR WRONG ANYWAY, CORRECT?...
S--T HAPPENS, RIGHT?...
Christian Zionist:
Tony,
Please read the following thread where homosexuality is discussed extensively!
http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=44.0
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