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Is it worth it to talk to crazy Jews?
zachor_ve_kavod:
--- Quote from: muman613 on October 20, 2008, 09:15:37 PM ---
--- Quote from: camerakid400 on October 20, 2008, 09:07:49 PM ---My aunt is a far left "reconstructionist" Jew who loves Obama. I told my mom that Obama was a socialist and that he has associations with antisemites and communists. When my mom confronted my aunt about this, my aunt said that she would absolutely sit on a board with weather underground terrorist william ayers, and then she said my mom was acting like an "NRA" member for not supporting Obama. My family almost fell apart due to this.
Liberal Jews are insane.
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camerakid400,
This is very, very sad... I have a feeling that our tribe may be loosing a lot of members when the end of days comes. I keep on remembering that only 4/5ths of the Jews of Egypt survived the plague of darkness. Those unrighteous and immoral Jews will be wiped out with the mixed multitudes. I realize that some in my family may be part of those who will not see the redemption. I have a feeling your aunt may be a wicked one also {who can justify working with an unrepentant terrorist?}.
muman613
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That is very sad. Personally, for the sake of family harmony, I would avoid talking politics with your aunt.
nopeaceforland:
Guys: I thought we were all friends here. Who are you calling crazy? I spend one measly week in Bellevue Psychiatric and I'M crazy? :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Seriously, these real leftist nuts are NOT WORTH IT! They'll never change. You can talk until you're blue in the face. Never change.
Sparky:
Jews and liberalism are very deeply rooted and not easily changed. I used to be a leftist Jew and it took me about a decade to finally come around. So it can be done, but it takes a lot of effort.
I wouldn't bother arguing with older leftist Jews. They're unlikely to change a lifetime of liberal thinking. Perhaps it might be worth speaking to younger Jews, though being young in itself is problem when it comes to conservative thinking.
So, basically, I have no clue what you should do. But if I had to make a recommendation, I'd say go ahead and speak to young leftist Jews...as long as you can stomach it. ;D
zachor_ve_kavod:
--- Quote from: Sparky on October 22, 2008, 07:22:38 PM ---Jews and liberalism are very deeply rooted and not easily changed. I used to be a leftist Jew and it took me about a decade to finally come around. So it can be done, but it takes a lot of effort.
I wouldn't bother arguing with older leftist Jews. They're unlikely to change a lifetime of liberal thinking. Perhaps it might be worth speaking to younger Jews, though being young in itself is problem when it comes to conservative thinking.
So, basically, I have no clue what you should do. But if I had to make a recommendation, I'd say go ahead and speak to young leftist Jews...as long as you can stomach it. ;D
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Well, I have been, but it gives me a headache. They just don't listen, the can't argue, they are immune to logic. I feel like I would have a better chance of convincing one of my dogs. At least they can sense when I'm getting impatient with them.
q_q_:
--- Quote from: zachor_ve_kavod on October 22, 2008, 07:42:57 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sparky on October 22, 2008, 07:22:38 PM ---Jews and liberalism are very deeply rooted and not easily changed. I used to be a leftist Jew and it took me about a decade to finally come around. So it can be done, but it takes a lot of effort.
I wouldn't bother arguing with older leftist Jews. They're unlikely to change a lifetime of liberal thinking. Perhaps it might be worth speaking to younger Jews, though being young in itself is problem when it comes to conservative thinking.
So, basically, I have no clue what you should do. But if I had to make a recommendation, I'd say go ahead and speak to young leftist Jews...as long as you can stomach it. ;D
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Well, I have been, but it gives me a headache. They just don't listen, the can't argue, they are immune to logic. I feel like I would have a better chance of convincing one of my dogs. At least they can sense when I'm getting impatient with them.
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meditate over this line. It came to me a few years ago in a moment of clarity
** leftists/liberals are defence lawyers for the enemy **
it's good to be an honest judge, it's also normal to be on your own team. A defence lawyer for your own.. Like Kahane often said "I'm an orthodox rabbi.. I love jews".
That was deeper though, he did it out of a religious obligation, not for racial reasons.
"Leftism" is a mental illness, and they have to recognise that they have a problem, and they don't. So you can't help them. But some things can snap them out of it.
A bomb, or a safer say that can work.. somebody like Walid Shoebat.
And this works on any leftist.
Remember. A leftist is a defence lawyer for the enemy.
So what messes them up is when their client suddenly turns around and says he's the persecutor! it implies that they are defending the wrong team!
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