regarding the modern hebrew cholam..
It's a short oh. Who did they take it from?
Sefaradim.. I spoke to one that pronounces 2 Ohs,
short oh, the kamatz katan,
long oh, the cholam.
Do some Sefaradim pronounce it like in modern hebrew and other Sefaradim like a long Oh? If so, which do which?
By the way, I am really asking about Sefaradim here.. and I avoided describing how ashkenazim pronounce it because your experience of ashkenazi pronunciation is american ashkenazi, and it's american! British ashkenazi pronunciation is purer because -significantly- I think we have all the same vowels in our english as exist in hebrew, and furthermore, we don't speak through the nose, or with a twang, like many americans can't avoid. With letters we are in the same boat as americans.