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Get ready for fireworks on this Sunday's Ask JTF!
jsullivan:
Yekutiel's forum is full of endless vicious personal attacks against Chaim and JTF. Literally hundreds of posts spouting the most venomous lies and slander by jealous, hateful informers and rats.
I finally attempted to respond with just one post, and it was immediately deleted.
The forum has posters like Sababa who called me a "shagitz", which means a male Gentile in Yiddish, but the context in this case was intended to be derogatory. These hypocrites call Chaim a "racist" for condemning black Jew-haters. But the same frauds who call Chaim a racist condemn me simply because I am a Gentile. That's not racist?
I will let Chaim know what is going on there before he does the program. I already posted a question that will give Chaim a chance to respond to the ugly jealously and hatred on that forum that we have been ignoring for a long time.
Just for the record: Yekutiel has personally posted messages on the JTF Forum, and his admins have posted here many times. We never deleted a single word from any of their posts. I do not believe that we should allow them to post here anymore if they are going to attack us on their forum and then delete our very first response.
Incidentally, the reason for their hatred and jealously is because our forum is much more active than theirs. We usually have ten times as many people on our forum as they do. That's despite the fact that our forum is only nine months old, while their forum has been around for many years.
Din Rodef:
The only reason I know who these people are is because they are mentioned at JTF
Is it possible to ignore them? ...or do they have to be confronted?
Sarah:
Chaim should Mock them and kindly correct their errors......then they'll feel like downright childish idiots.
jdl4ever:
Kahane.org did not delete all the anti JTF stuff like you said. Here is one thread where Chaim was attacked. http://forum.kahane.org/index.php/topic,1295.15.html. Here is another http://forum.kahane.org/index.php/topic,1520.0.html.
It looks like they deleted a thread dedicated to attacking JTF titled "why won't JTF get lost" started by a nutcase. That is where jsullivan responded. I don't see what the problem is. The admins probably didn't want to see an anti Chaim thread on their site since they have no problem with him. JTF would probably have deleted anti Yukutiel threads as well. So why are you making a big deal over nothing?
The kahane.org site lets a lot of crazy people post nonsense to liven things up since they have very few dedicated posters. They only censor things when it gets out of hand. So they have a more open policy than this site and they shouldn't be attacked if they have a different method of running their forum by allowing crazy people to post stuff. Kahane.org has only deleted a thread dedicated to attacking JTF since it was slander but they kept scattered attacks on Chaim in other threads to allow for an open debate. Jsullivan should repeat his nice response on these threads. Personally, I wouldn't have deleted jsullivan's comments and it was probably a mistake on their part when they did so. Yukutiel has stated many times that he has nothing against Chaim and he respects anyone working toward a common goal.
This is what Yukutiel said on kahane.org "Generally speaking there are tons of JTF stuff here. When there apears to be a war of slander, posts might get deleted..however, as everybody knows they are welcome to post stuff here. I am not at war with them. If they are at war with us, that's cool too, They can join the line. They will never find a more inclusive site than this one, so enough of the crying already...if somebody's post got deleted with a bunch of others, and should not have been , then i apologize. But i reserve the right to delete any and all posts that go off topic and resort to unrelated personal slander...If that post did not contain any personal attacks, then it was a mistake.let's move on and try and keep on topic..."
Maccabi:
I hope Chaim doesn't waste time talking about these schmucks.
While I don't agree with everything Chaim says and don't put him on a pedastal (he is obviously very human) I would trust him and his honesty anyday over any of these 'politically savvy' types if my life was a stake.
Frankly it was boring to hear him rebut the guy who posted in ask JTF a few weeks ago. It was the most boring part of any ask JTF I have ever listened to.
Why should he waste his time and our time addressing obvious slander when people on this forum have more interesting questions?
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