Author Topic: Boycott Turkey (Read 6665 times)

ProudAndZionist · « **Reply #25 on:** April 29, 2009, 11:58:46 PM »

I only hate the fanatist, anti-semitic muslim Turks. I have good Turkish friends, who support Israel!

And they hate the muslims as we. (They say "it is against the Turkish world, and it is arab [censored]")

JTFFan · « **Reply #26 on:** April 30, 2009, 12:07:04 AM »

Quote from: Pheasant on January 07, 2009, 06:42:49 AM

Turky has no secular gouvernment. The time of the good Kemalists is over.

Now are ruling the arch-quranimals Abdullah Gül and Erdogan the country.

It is on the way to real islamofascism without return ticket.

I agree Turkey should be boycotted all the way. After all they've done, especially destroyed Germany, Armenia and the Christian Balkan countries. I suppose there are righteous Christian Turks but very few.

briann · « **Reply #27 on:** April 30, 2009, 12:18:10 AM »

Quote from: drlmg on April 29, 2009, 11:29:24 PM

Quote from: D2I on April 29, 2009, 07:29:14 PM
What the hell does turkey produce? The only export from turkey i know about i is hassish

That is what I have been wondering!!

I had a few Turkish friends in school, they were great. For some reason they were all in the pharmacy program.... hmm. However, the subject of politics or religion never came up so I have no idea where they stood as far as that goes. I am certain they were not Muslim though. I have never liked Muslims, even before I knew what they were all about.

I'm glad you brought that up. I had similar experiences with Turkish classmates... they seemed very nice and cordial... but as soon as world affairs were brought up, I was horrified... and its no wonder that they are moving more and more to the extreme. The hate zionism.... more than you can imagine. They straight up told me that they have no problem with Christianity or Judaism... as long as it does not promote zionistic goals. They also told me about zionist conspiracies an 9/11. It actually was my first feeling of hatred that I had for Islam.... since it made me wonder... how such seemingly rational people want to believe in such nonsense.

I am sorry... but unless this Turkish forum member renounces Islam and Naziism, I don't think we should welcome him in this forum.

Iran vs. Israel · « **Reply #28 on:** April 30, 2009, 02:01:00 AM »

whats so strange about "mein kampf" beeing a topseller

? this is history,for years we had the topic hitler in school and why shouldnt you read the book if you already talk about hitler all day in school lessons

also you can read g bush his book cant you ?

muman613 · « **Reply #29 on:** April 30, 2009, 02:06:00 AM »

Quote from: Iran vs. Israel on April 30, 2009, 02:01:00 AM

whats so strange about "mein kampf" beeing a topseller ? this is history,for years we had the topic hitler in school and why shouldnt you read the book if you already talk about hitler all day in school lessons

also you can read g bush his book cant you ?

You are obviously an idiot and will be banned in a matter of moments. Enjoy your time while you can you worthless piece of excrement. We do enjoy destroying evil like you. You have arrived at just the right time so that we can have fun insulting you and your filthy religion.

Islam is a cult led by a lecherous fool who considered himself a prophet. He was able to fool a bunch of dumb arabs and some dumb persians and make believe he talks to G-d. Mohammud was worse that pig excrement, as you and your mother are. We have no patients for trolls who are so obviously here to be rude and insulting.

You have no power and will be dust soon. Islam glorifies death and you should kill yourself to be close to Mohamud and Allah the dog. Your kind disgusts me and my family. Iran is good for nothing and the world will be better off without drek like you walking the earth. Air is too valuable for swine like you and Achmadinanad.

Go to hell and don't come back! You will tell us how it feels to be the ones in the ovens this time.

~Hanna~ · « **Reply #30 on:** April 30, 2009, 02:12:07 AM »

YES, MUMAN TOOK THE WORDS OUT OF MY MOUTH....

go to hell....HELL!

quote author=muman613 link=topic=30380.msg347152#msg347152 date=1241071560]

Quote from: Iran vs. Israel on April 30, 2009, 02:01:00 AM

whats so strange about "mein kampf" beeing a topseller ? this is history,for years we had the topic hitler in school and why shouldnt you read the book if you already talk about hitler all day in school lessons

also you can read g bush his book cant you ?

You are obviously an idiot and will be banned in a matter of moments. Enjoy your time while you can you worthless piece of excrement. We do enjoy destroying evil like you. You have arrived at just the right time so that we can have fun insulting you and your filthy religion.

Islam is a cult led by a lecherous fool who considered himself a prophet. He was able to fool a bunch of dumb arabs and some dumb persians and make believe he talks to G-d. Mohammud was worse that pig excrement, as you and your mother are. We have no patients for trolls who are so obviously here to be rude and insulting.

You have no power and will be dust soon. Islam glorifies death and you should kill yourself to be close to Mohamud and Allah the dog. Your kind disgusts me and my family. Iran is good for nothing and the world will be better off without drek like you walking the earth. Air is too valuable for swine like you and Achmadinanad.

Go to hell and don't come back! You will tell us how it feels to be the ones in the ovens this time.

[/quote]

MasterWolf1 · « **Reply #31 on:** April 30, 2009, 02:13:09 AM »

Filthy Muzz cockroach correction the world hates Dirty filthy low smelly bug eating Muzzheads who are the dirtiest nastiest creatures on the Earth and now I do know everything about you you make threats to this country? That is all I wanted you have no idea who you are messing with Scumbag Muzz

~Hanna~ · « **Reply #32 on:** April 30, 2009, 02:13:37 AM »

GO TO HELLLLLLLL!!!!!

I AM PART GERMAN AND I DON'T HATE JEWS YOU SCUMBAG....

SPEAK FOR YOURSELF

Quote from: Iran vs. Israel on April 30, 2009, 02:11:02 AM

sorry but who cares if a jew hates him ?i mean i live in germany and every single german still hates jews,same in the whole world.

u will always be hated and fcked,as long as the world exists

assalamu alaykum

~Hanna~ · « **Reply #33 on:** April 30, 2009, 02:17:02 AM »

DU BIST EINE DUMKOFF

UND

DU BIST EINE SCHITZEKOFF

SCHITZEKOFF

SCHITZEKOFF!!!!!!!

Quote from: Iran vs. Israel on April 30, 2009, 02:14:55 AM

judenschwein

Cato · « **Reply #34 on:** April 30, 2009, 04:08:01 AM »

Quote from: Mehmetce on April 29, 2009, 05:42:17 PM

I am from Turkey,and I can read what you discuss here.You are not banned in Turkey,at least for now.

Sorry but we are banned, not as a movement but as an internet site. I have tried several servers and they all ban us as a "hate site". Also, You Tube is still banned because of comments on Ataturk. Democracy? Give us a break!!

Before the UK further supports EEC membership for Turkey, it should remember that most UK cabinet members in their youth were socialist activists of the type which were routinely hung in Turkey for being exactly that. And so, you have a problem - too much to the left and you are imprisoned/killed, too much to the right and Islam rots your brain. Political discussion doesn't exist in Turkey the way we know it in the West. That's why young Turks surprise their counterparts in Europe by their total political illiteracy. We don't need a rehash of Turkish State Television in the disguise of free thought. I understand that journalists from the mildly reformatory newspaper Cumhuriyet are still languishing in jail. Your democracy is a joke. Continue putting your women in headscarfs and continue on your journey to oblivion. Ataturk was a great reformer, but the pity is you never produced anyone remotely similar, before or since. Plus, he was never a Muslim, and his father considered himself Jewish. Which brings us back to why You Tube is banned. Kill the Messenger.

SavetheWest · « **Reply #35 on:** April 30, 2009, 04:35:59 AM »

The fact that the Turkish government officially are holocaust deniers of the Armenian genocide is enough of a problem for me. They say "many people died" but it was clearly an extermination campaign against the Armenians. Yes, Armenians took up arms against the Turks who were ruling their lands and what Armenians got in return was to be driven around in box cars in circles, in 100 degree heat until most of them were dead and there were at least one million dead. May Talat's name and memory be obliterated. Also, they still have recently killed Armenians by aiding the Muslim Azerbaijanis in Nagorno Karabakh. They helped occupy half the island of Greek Christian Cyprus on behalf of Turk Cypriots who killed 10 Greeks for every one Turk killed. They kill all types of dissidents and even have treated Muslim Kurds worse than excrement. If they ban the Kurdish music and displaced half the Kurdish population through forced relocations and imprisonment, why should they be trusted as partners in the EU?

SW · « **Reply #36 on:** April 30, 2009, 05:21:03 AM »

Hyades · « **Reply #37 on:** April 30, 2009, 05:21:25 AM »

They want to join the EU and care a sh*t for our values! Look how this mob behaves! This is exactly what they do here also! They throw bottles, Molotov cocktails and shout at German player "Nazi scum" and threaten them with death.
What a blind hatred. And I wonder why this islamist mob goes to watch such a match. It is haram anyway! Perhaps not haram enough...
But it is hard to boycot Turkish products here in Germany. Clothes, many food and other things come from Turkey. 55% of chicken meat in Germany is traded by a Turkish firm.
Turkey can try to be Western or secular - it will always remain Muslim. Since Atatürk the country has become everytime more religious and this will not stop there. I am sure that sooner or later they will cut ties to Israel and they will become an islamic Republic before they can even dream of joining the EU!
I just wonder why Obama has pressed so much the EU to accept Turkey as full member. This country is not even close to Europe when it comes to human rights, freedom, and culture!
All European culture they have is actualy GREEK! Or does anyone think that Hagia Sophia still looks like a former cathedral? This is the way they influence our culture...
Now Israel should ask for an excuse by the Turkish diplomats just as they always want excuses from others!

Mehmetce · « **Reply #38 on:** April 30, 2009, 04:05:31 PM »

I am not here to do Turkey's advocacy here but I have to clearify somethings.
I would like to tell you that I feel humiliated beacuse of Hitler's "Mein Kampf" is one of the best seller books in my country in the last few years.There is no point to defend this situation.Shame on you Turkey!!!

Turkey and Israel are critical allies as I expressed in my prior post.There may appear crisis/problems between two countries regarding the events in middle east,such as we saw in Davos 2009.But the deep strategic partnership will never be damaged just because of these incidents.

Armenian Genocide is one of the issues we should let the Armenians and Turks solve each other.I am really hopefull for the future that we can finally come to a peace.

It's true that Turkey will remain as a Muslim country no matter how much it gets secularist,democratic and respectful to human rights.But I didn't lose my faith on Turkish people yet.I still believe even if they don't change their religion,they will learn how to distinguish religion and public life.They will learn what secularism means in fact.

European Union??? maybe a few centuries later,maybe in 2300s Turkey could be a member of the EU. Everybody knows including Jews,Germen,Frenchs,Americans,Hindus,Russians and Turks that Turkey will never be a member of the EU.It's just impossible.It's just a chess they play each other.

muman613 · « **Reply #39 on:** April 30, 2009, 04:27:23 PM »

Quote from: Mehmetce on April 30, 2009, 04:05:31 PM

I am not here to do Turkey's advocacy here but I have to clearify somethings.
I would like to tell you that I feel humiliated beacuse of Hitler's "Mein Kampf" is one of the best seller books in my country in the last few years.There is no point to defend this situation.Shame on you Turkey!!!

Turkey and Israel are critical allies as I expressed in my prior post.There may appear crisis/problems between two countries regarding the events in middle east,such as we saw in Davos 2008.But the deep strategic partnership will never be damaged just because of these incidents.

Armenian Genocide is one of the issues we should let the Armenians and Turks solve each other.I am really hopefull for the future that we can finally come to a peace.

It's true that Turkey will remain as a Muslim country no matter how much it gets secularist,democratic and respectful to human rights.But I didn't lose my faith on Turkish people yet.I still believe even if they don't change their religion,they will learn how to distinguish religion and public life.They will learn what secularism means in fact.

European Union??? maybe a few centuries later,maybe in 2300s Turkey could be a member of the EU. Everybody knows including Jews,Germen,Frenchs,Americans,Hindus,Russians and Turks that Turkey will never be a member of the EU.It's just impossible.It's just a chess they play each other.

Bravo my friend, you do seem to know what is right and wrong. If only you can spread this message without much resistance. I wish you much strength because I feel you will need it.

ProudAndZionist · « **Reply #40 on:** April 30, 2009, 04:30:54 PM »

Quote from: Mehmetce on April 30, 2009, 04:05:31 PM

I am not here to do Turkey's advocacy here but I have to clearify somethings.
I would like to tell you that I feel humiliated beacuse of Hitler's "Mein Kampf" is one of the best seller books in my country in the last few years.There is no point to defend this situation.Shame on you Turkey!!!

Turkey and Israel are critical allies as I expressed in my prior post.There may appear crisis/problems between two countries regarding the events in middle east,such as we saw in Davos 2008.But the deep strategic partnership will never be damaged just because of these incidents.

Armenian Genocide is one of the issues we should let the Armenians and Turks solve each other.I am really hopefull for the future that we can finally come to a peace.

It's true that Turkey will remain as a Muslim country no matter how much it gets secularist,democratic and respectful to human rights.But I didn't lose my faith on Turkish people yet.I still believe even if they don't change their religion,they will learn how to distinguish religion and public life.They will learn what secularism means in fact.

European Union??? maybe a few centuries later,maybe in 2300s Turkey could be a member of the EU. Everybody knows including Jews,Germen,Frenchs,Americans,Hindus,Russians and Turks that Turkey will never be a member of the EU.It's just impossible.It's just a chess they play each other.

Ne mutlu türküm diyene.

A real Turk is not muslim. Islam is Arab. Turks must leave that dirty religion.

briann · « **Reply #41 on:** April 30, 2009, 06:10:21 PM »

Quote from: Mehmetce on April 30, 2009, 04:05:31 PM

I am not here to do Turkey's advocacy here but I have to clearify somethings.
I would like to tell you that I feel humiliated beacuse of Hitler's "Mein Kampf" is one of the best seller books in my country in the last few years.There is no point to defend this situation.Shame on you Turkey!!!

Turkey and Israel are critical allies as I expressed in my prior post.There may appear crisis/problems between two countries regarding the events in middle east,such as we saw in Davos 2009.But the deep strategic partnership will never be damaged just because of these incidents.

Armenian Genocide is one of the issues we should let the Armenians and Turks solve each other.I am really hopefull for the future that we can finally come to a peace.

It's true that Turkey will remain as a Muslim country no matter how much it gets secularist,democratic and respectful to human rights.But I didn't lose my faith on Turkish people yet.I still believe even if they don't change their religion,they will learn how to distinguish religion and public life.They will learn what secularism means in fact.

European Union??? maybe a few centuries later,maybe in 2300s Turkey could be a member of the EU. Everybody knows including Jews,Germen,Frenchs,Americans,Hindus,Russians and Turks that Turkey will never be a member of the EU.It's just impossible.It's just a chess they play each other.

Mehmet, do you denounce Islam? To me that is the million dollar question... for anyone who comes from a predominantly Muslim country. We have Persian members here, and have no problems with them.... simply because they genuinely agree with our beliefs about Islam... that it is inherantly evil... as with Naziism and Communism.

JewishAmericanPatriot · « **Reply #42 on:** April 30, 2009, 07:33:54 PM »

Quote from: muman613 on January 06, 2009, 06:31:54 PM

I am calling for a boycot of anything from Turkey... Those bastards are evil antisemites. America should cut off all diplomatic relations with the cesspool of Turkey...

Get a load of this:

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/129268

Muslims Death Threats Halt Turkish-Israel Basketball Game
Tevet 10, 5769, 06 January 09 10:19
by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu

(IsraelNN.com) Turkish Muslims screamed death threats at a European Cup game between Turkey and Israel, forcing players to flee to the dressing room Tuesday. Referees suspended the game between Bnei HaSharon and Turk Telekom, who were playing in as part of the European championship series.

Shouts of "Israel, Killers" and "Allah is Great" were followed by a surge of more than 2,000 fans with fists raised in the air at the Ankara sports center. "They had blood in their eyes" and threw bottles and shoes at the Israel team, one player said.

The Turkish players also fled to the dressing room, protected by police who use riot shields to protect players from both sides. Outside, Muslims set fire to an Israeli flag.

Turkey's secular government has come under increased pressure from Muslims, who want to make the nation officially religious. The government, despite its good relations with Israel, has been sharply critical of the Cast Lead counterterrorist campaign in Gaza and has been promoting a ceasefire proposal.

Ive been boycotting anything Turkish for about 3 years now due to the fact that they refuse to own up to the genocide they committed against the Armenians.

GoIsraelGo! · « **Reply #43 on:** April 30, 2009, 07:38:51 PM »

Quote from: Americanhero on January 06, 2009, 06:50:40 PM

I Like Turkey it goes great with stuffing and coleslaw

Cornbread stuffing?

MikeyChua · « **Reply #44 on:** April 30, 2009, 07:50:27 PM »

Second Turkish affront administered to Israel in a week
April 29, 2009, 8:44 PM (GMT+02:00)
Turkey's army chief Gen. Ilker Basburg brushed off the Israeli defense minister Ehud Barak's comment that the joint Turkish-Syrian military exercise was "disturbing."
Barak referred to the first exercise Turkey, Israel's longstanding military ally and NATO member, had ever staged with an Arab nation, Israel's avowed foe Syria. Gen. Basbug said it was only a border exercise, small-scale and "none of anybody's business."
"Why would it concern Israel? We will not ask for permission from anybody else [to conduct such exercises], he said."
DEBKAfile's military sources, who first broke the story about the maneuver earlier this week, noted that the Turkish general made a point of mentioning his "extensive talks with the visiting US Chief of General Staff" and their four-hour long "exchange of views on a range of issues."
This confirmed DEBKAfile's earlier report that the Turkish-Syrian exercise had received Washington's nod. To see this report, click HERE
Basburg also boasted about his meeting with US President Obama"s national security advisor Jones during President Obama's visit to Turkey early April.

Hyades · « **Reply #45 on:** May 01, 2009, 05:39:24 AM »

As a NATO member they think they have no reason to ask permission? YES they DO! Since it is not allowed for any meber of the NATO to have manoeuvres with any no-ally or at least partner of the NATO - only with a special permission. And I doubt they asked for it! They simply ignore every single rule and get billions of Dollars every year!
Now imagine this country in the EU! They care a nuts about our opinions. So why do they join us then? How about them making a pan-Turkic alliance with Azerbaijan and the Turkic countries from former USSR!?

Mehmetce · « **Reply #46 on:** May 01, 2009, 06:10:26 AM »

Quote from: briann on April 30, 2009, 06:10:21 PM

Quote from: Mehmetce on April 30, 2009, 04:05:31 PM
I am not here to do Turkey's advocacy here but I have to clearify somethings.
I would like to tell you that I feel humiliated beacuse of Hitler's "Mein Kampf" is one of the best seller books in my country in the last few years.There is no point to defend this situation.Shame on you Turkey!!!

Turkey and Israel are critical allies as I expressed in my prior post.There may appear crisis/problems between two countries regarding the events in middle east,such as we saw in Davos 2009.But the deep strategic partnership will never be damaged just because of these incidents.

Armenian Genocide is one of the issues we should let the Armenians and Turks solve each other.I am really hopefull for the future that we can finally come to a peace.

It's true that Turkey will remain as a Muslim country no matter how much it gets secularist,democratic and respectful to human rights.But I didn't lose my faith on Turkish people yet.I still believe even if they don't change their religion,they will learn how to distinguish religion and public life.They will learn what secularism means in fact.

European Union??? maybe a few centuries later,maybe in 2300s Turkey could be a member of the EU. Everybody knows including Jews,Germen,Frenchs,Americans,Hindus,Russians and Turks that Turkey will never be a member of the EU.It's just impossible.It's just a chess they play each other.

Mehmet, do you denounce Islam? To me that is the million dollar question... for anyone who comes from a predominantly Muslim country. We have Persian members here, and have no problems with them.... simply because they genuinely agree with our beliefs about Islam... that it is inherantly evil... as with Naziism and Communism.

A relgion which commands to exterminate all non-believers if they do not want to submit to it,is totally unacceptable.However,I was born,raised and still living in a muslim country.I am not totally an enemy of the muslims or islam.After all,they are my people.We must accept that this relgion will remain very very long time as long as humans are existed in this world.Therefore,we must encourage them to modify their religion to adopt it to the 21th century.

briann · « **Reply #47 on:** May 01, 2009, 12:08:18 PM »

Quote from: Mehmetce on May 01, 2009, 06:10:26 AM

Quote from: briann on April 30, 2009, 06:10:21 PM
Quote from: Mehmetce on April 30, 2009, 04:05:31 PM
I am not here to do Turkey's advocacy here but I have to clearify somethings.
I would like to tell you that I feel humiliated beacuse of Hitler's "Mein Kampf" is one of the best seller books in my country in the last few years.There is no point to defend this situation.Shame on you Turkey!!!

Turkey and Israel are critical allies as I expressed in my prior post.There may appear crisis/problems between two countries regarding the events in middle east,such as we saw in Davos 2009.But the deep strategic partnership will never be damaged just because of these incidents.

Armenian Genocide is one of the issues we should let the Armenians and Turks solve each other.I am really hopefull for the future that we can finally come to a peace.

It's true that Turkey will remain as a Muslim country no matter how much it gets secularist,democratic and respectful to human rights.But I didn't lose my faith on Turkish people yet.I still believe even if they don't change their religion,they will learn how to distinguish religion and public life.They will learn what secularism means in fact.

European Union??? maybe a few centuries later,maybe in 2300s Turkey could be a member of the EU. Everybody knows including Jews,Germen,Frenchs,Americans,Hindus,Russians and Turks that Turkey will never be a member of the EU.It's just impossible.It's just a chess they play each other.

Mehmet, do you denounce Islam? To me that is the million dollar question... for anyone who comes from a predominantly Muslim country. We have Persian members here, and have no problems with them.... simply because they genuinely agree with our beliefs about Islam... that it is inherantly evil... as with Naziism and Communism.

A relgion which commands to exterminate all non-believers if they do not want to submit to it,is totally unacceptable.However,I was born,raised and still living in a muslim country.I am not totally an enemy of the muslims or islam.After all,they are my people.We must accept that this relgion will remain very very long time as long as humans are existed in this world.Therefore,we must encourage them to modify their religion to adopt it to the 21th century.

Well I agree with half of what you say.

You can't modify the Koran. It just doesn't work like that. Just like you can't modify the Communist Manifesto, or Mein Kampf. They are what they are. And based upon what we have all seen... Muslims are NOT EVER going to modify their beliefs of Jihad... as it is a key part of Islam.... and litters the whole second half of the Koran.

By the way, as far as modernizing, I think you are looking at this all wrong. We here all have very open and tolerant attitudes towards religions/ideologies that shun modern lifestyles... as long as their religion promotes peaceful coexistence with others.

New Yorker · « **Reply #48 on:** May 01, 2009, 02:38:06 PM »

Phew, for a second there I thought you meant the poultry meat. I just bought a couple of boneless skinless turkey breasts, very healthy lean protein.

Cato · « **Reply #49 on:** May 01, 2009, 03:13:09 PM »

Quote from: Mehmetce on May 01, 2009, 06:10:26 AM

Quote from: briann on April 30, 2009, 06:10:21 PM
Quote from: Mehmetce on April 30, 2009, 04:05:31 PM
I am not here to do Turkey's advocacy here but I have to clearify somethings.
I would like to tell you that I feel humiliated beacuse of Hitler's "Mein Kampf" is one of the best seller books in my country in the last few years.There is no point to defend this situation.Shame on you Turkey!!!

Turkey and Israel are critical allies as I expressed in my prior post.There may appear crisis/problems between two countries regarding the events in middle east,such as we saw in Davos 2009.But the deep strategic partnership will never be damaged just because of these incidents.

Armenian Genocide is one of the issues we should let the Armenians and Turks solve each other.I am really hopefull for the future that we can finally come to a peace.

It's true that Turkey will remain as a Muslim country no matter how much it gets secularist,democratic and respectful to human rights.But I didn't lose my faith on Turkish people yet.I still believe even if they don't change their religion,they will learn how to distinguish religion and public life.They will learn what secularism means in fact.

European Union??? maybe a few centuries later,maybe in 2300s Turkey could be a member of the EU. Everybody knows including Jews,Germen,Frenchs,Americans,Hindus,Russians and Turks that Turkey will never be a member of the EU.It's just impossible.It's just a chess they play each other.

Mehmet, do you denounce Islam? To me that is the million dollar question... for anyone who comes from a predominantly Muslim country. We have Persian members here, and have no problems with them.... simply because they genuinely agree with our beliefs about Islam... that it is inherantly evil... as with Naziism and Communism.

A relgion which commands to exterminate all non-believers if they do not want to submit to it,is totally unacceptable.However,I was born,raised and still living in a muslim country.I am not totally an enemy of the muslims or islam.After all,they are my people.We must accept that this relgion will remain very very long time as long as humans are existed in this world.Therefore,we must encourage them to modify their religion to adopt it to the 21th century.

Personally I do not believe that it is possible to separate religous and secular life in the way in which you indicate. Christianity has no designs on society on the whole, in the way that Islam does, but even in Europe it has never really been possible to separate Church from State. If you think I'm just talking about hundreds of years ago, check on how many Catholics were in Jim Callaghan and Shirley Williams' Cabinet when they took Britain into the Common Market.

I would concede a litte to Mehmetce. I do believe that educated people in the West of Turkey increasingly pay just lip service to Islam, in the way in which most people in the UK do to Christianity. I personally manage a group of educated people in western Turkey, not one of whom goes to a mosque or observes Ramadan. I believe that there is a possibility of a civil war between the modern secularists and the vast conservative majority. The army would side with the secularists, and the Arab petrodollars with Islam. The present day secularists already tend to regard the term Arab as an insult, and bear absolutely no resemblance either in appearance or belief to the Islamic hordes which have been allowed to settle throughout western Europe.