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Is David Ben Ariel pro Israel?
« on: February 09, 2009, 04:16:35 PM »
I was reading some blog on Chuck Baldwins site and there's an article about David Ben Ariel, anyone heard of him?

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Maybe some of his ideas are a bit farfetched but this is an article I saw.

http://www.davidbenariel.org/lost-tribes/english-speaking-nations-white-israelites.htm

The English-Speaking Nations of White Israelites

Is God a racist? Does He discriminate? Did Jesus hate Gentiles? Was Paul prejudiced? Are Israelites and Jews superior to other peoples? Is God's favorite color white?

Anybody who reads the Bible should see that there are physical blessings and prophecies concerning the Jews, and those with a Worldwide Church of God background understand not only the Jews, but all 12 Tribes of Israel (specifically Joseph's Birthright), and that our physical blessings were to become a blessing to all nations and they have, even as our spiritual blessings (Judah's Scepter) through the King of the Jews (didn't God inspire the Romans to proclaim that message?), the King of Israel (first and foremost), offers everybody the incredible human potential (regardless of race) to be born again and enter the brilliant Kingdom-Family of God.

Herbert W. Armstrong spoke of the biblical promises of grace, and the biblical promises of race within The United States and Britain in Prophecy. Some, willfully or woefully ignorant (God knows), falsely accuse him of being racist, of actually hating other races. I dare say Herbert W. Armstrong was no more "racist" than the Bible teaches us to be.

Some, due to horrible indoctrination by the politically correct (PC) cult -- whose evil spirit has intoxicated society with self-righteous standards and a smug attitude -- would say God is a racist for choosing Israel to become His Servant Nation (aren't all nations equal?), that Yeshua (Jesus) was "insensitive" for telling the Samaritan woman that "salvation is of the Jews" and the Gentiles don't have a clue (John 4:21-22), that Yeshua was hateful for forbidding His Jewish disciples from going to any of the Gentiles and stating He was only sent to the House of Israel (Matt. 10:5-6), and bristle at Paul for being such a "bigot" for believing and teaching (without apology or hesitation) that God has ordained the Gospel go to "the Jew first and also to the Greek" (Romans 1:16, 2:10).

I notice that all the Sabbath-keeping Church of God groups associated with the former Worldwide Church of God, purposely dumb down or tone down, White Israelite heritage (nothing to be ashamed of when every other group can be proud of their roots and are expected to be) and euphemistically refer to it and the biblical prophecies concerning the literal descendants of the Twelve Tribes of Israel as pertaining to "the English-speaking nations."

If they were on an internet forum they would quickly get called on it and asked, "What? Just what do you mean 'the English-speaking nations?' Every English speaker is an Israelite?" And then they would have to fidget about, and finally admit, reluctantly confess, oh my... "No, only those White peoples of Anglo-Saxon-Celtic or Northwestern European origins are undoubtedly Israelites and Jews -- the others among them are Gentiles." However, when I write, I write and speak the plain truth and say "White Israelites" - clearly referring to Anglo-Saxon-Celtics, Jews and the White peoples of Northwestern European ancestry.

If somebody wants to call that "racist," then they're racist and have a problem with God, the Bible and those who are White Israelites and who are not afraid to admit it. Was Paul a racist when he had to remind the Gentiles of their proper place in God's plan of salvation for all mankind? Is it racist or sexist to speak of roles or proper places for men and women and races?

Trust me, no matter how perfectly you try to explain race and grace, and God's perfect plan and supreme purpose for both, or anything biblical, some will ALWAYS find fault, some will always accuse you of being a racist or a bigot (because we believe Christ is the only Way to the Father) or whatever PC brand name strikes their fancy (sexist, homophobe).

However, we know Satan is the accuser of the brethren and stirs up misunderstandings and distorts what we believe. We should expect opposition to the plain truth of the Bible that is growing increasingly unpopular in this hostile world for those who dare to live, speak, write or teach it!

Before I understood the Israelite origins of the West, our Hebrew roots, I considered myself a Gentile and I thanked God for opening up salvation to "us Gentiles." I didn't get angry at Him or Jews and call them or Him racist or have some inferiority complex or double standards where everybody can have "black pride" or "brown pride" and mention their color in their many race-conscious groups and organizations (BET, Miss Black America, Black Congressional Caucus, United Negro College Fund, NAACP, The Black Pages, the BlackMarketPlace, Brown Pride Forum), but don't you dare mention anything about the color white or proper white pride, heritage or integrity!

I can perceive how Satan has inspired this hypocritical confusion so folks will be afraid, intimidated to keep quiet about our Hebrew roots and White Israelite origins, to keep people in the dark about the prophecies concerning our white peoples for better and for worse, and to cower before the PC slave masters and generically refer to it as "the English-speaking nations." I've chosen, by the grace of God, to break free of the PC shackles and plantation and speak and write the plain truth. If I don't, who will?



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Re: Is David Ben Ariel pro Israel?
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2009, 04:22:22 PM »
Yes very pro Israel i know him for a long time
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Re: Is David Ben Ariel pro Israel?
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2009, 04:29:38 PM »
Is it true that anglo-saxans and northwestern Europeans are Israelites or part of the lost tribes? I've heard similar claims from Christian Identity movements so I ignored them. I suppose it's possible they have the DNA markers although they wouldn't be considered halachically Jewish.

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Re: Is David Ben Ariel pro Israel?
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2009, 04:36:11 PM »
Is it true that anglo-saxans and northwestern Europeans are Israelites or part of the lost tribes? I've heard similar claims from Christian Identity movements so I ignored them. I suppose it's possible they have the DNA markers although they wouldn't be considered halachically Jewish.
David is not Christian Identity he just believes the lost tribes are in Europe. David is close friends with this orthodox Jew from Israel who has a site with the same beliefs                  http://www.britam.org/
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Re: Is David Ben Ariel pro Israel?
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2009, 04:37:50 PM »
Is it true that anglo-saxans and northwestern Europeans are Israelites or part of the lost tribes? I've heard similar claims from Christian Identity movements so I ignored them. I suppose it's possible they have the DNA markers although they wouldn't be considered halachically Jewish.
David is not Christian Identity he just believes the lost tribes are in Europe. David is close friends with this orthodox Jew from Israel who has a site with the same beliefs                  http://www.britam.org/

Very interesting. Is Chuck Baldwin pro Israel? I saw that he lives in Pensacola which is like an hour from me.

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Re: Is David Ben Ariel pro Israel?
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2009, 04:40:35 PM »
Is it true that anglo-saxans and northwestern Europeans are Israelites or part of the lost tribes? I've heard similar claims from Christian Identity movements so I ignored them. I suppose it's possible they have the DNA markers although they wouldn't be considered halachically Jewish.
David is not Christian Identity he just believes the lost tribes are in Europe. David is close friends with this orthodox Jew from Israel who has a site with the same beliefs                  http://www.britam.org/

Very interesting. Is Chuck Baldwin pro Israel? I saw that he lives in Pensacola which is like an hour from me.
he's not anti Israel i wouldn't go so far as saying he's pro Israel
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Re: Is David Ben Ariel pro Israel?
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2009, 04:41:42 PM »
Is it true that anglo-saxans and northwestern Europeans are Israelites or part of the lost tribes? I've heard similar claims from Christian Identity movements so I ignored them. I suppose it's possible they have the DNA markers although they wouldn't be considered halachically Jewish.
David is not Christian Identity he just believes the lost tribes are in Europe. David is close friends with this orthodox Jew from Israel who has a site with the same beliefs                  http://www.britam.org/

Very interesting. Is Chuck Baldwin pro Israel? I saw that he lives in Pensacola which is like an hour from me.
he's not anti Israel i wouldn't go so far as saying he's pro Israel

Oh, he had a link to Davids site from his blog.

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Re: Is David Ben Ariel pro Israel?
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2009, 04:43:23 PM »
Is it true that anglo-saxans and northwestern Europeans are Israelites or part of the lost tribes? I've heard similar claims from Christian Identity movements so I ignored them. I suppose it's possible they have the DNA markers although they wouldn't be considered halachically Jewish.
David is not Christian Identity he just believes the lost tribes are in Europe. David is close friends with this orthodox Jew from Israel who has a site with the same beliefs                  http://www.britam.org/

Very interesting. Is Chuck Baldwin pro Israel? I saw that he lives in Pensacola which is like an hour from me.
he's not anti Israel i wouldn't go so far as saying he's pro Israel

Oh, he had a link to Davids site from his blog.
Really then maybe he's more pro Israel then i thought
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Re: Is David Ben Ariel pro Israel?
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2009, 04:53:36 PM »
David Ben Ariel is a nutcase. He used to be a member of our forum, but got all psycho when he found out we are against Ron Paul, who he worships.

I believe he was banned shortly thereafter for making some kind of a theological anti-Jewish post, but you'd have to ask Lisa what that statement was.

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Re: Is David Ben Ariel pro Israel?
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2009, 05:58:06 PM »
Anyone who worships Ron Paul is a sick shmuck.
I am urinating on a Koran.

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Re: Is David Ben Ariel pro Israel?
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2009, 11:48:52 PM »
Literally as well as figuratively. Ron Paul (yimach schmo) looks like he has AIDS, and is a known gay-"rights" advocate.