DEBATE POINTS FOR FAKESTINE that there is NO FAKESTINE

[AsheDina]

PALESTINE: FACTS ABOUT ITS ACTUAL EXISTENCE
If you are so sure that Palestine, the country, goes back through most of
recorded history, I expect you to be able to answer a few basic questions about
that country:

1. When was it founded and by whom?
2. What were its borders?
3. What was its capital?
4. What were its major cities?
5. What constituted the basis of its economy?
6. What was its form of government?
7. Can you name at least one Palestinian leader before Arafat?
8. Was Palestine ever recognized by a country whose existence, at that time or
now, leaves no room for interpretation?
9. What was the language of the country of Palestine?
10. What was the prevalent religion of the country of Palestine?
11. What was the name of its currency? Choose any date in history and tell what
was the approximate exchange rate of the Palestinian monetary unit against the
US dollar, German mark, GB pound, Japanese yen, or Chinese yuan on that date.
12. And, finally, since there is no such country today, what caused its demise
and when did it occur?

You are lamenting the 'low sinking' of a 'once proud' nation. Please tell me
when exactly was that 'nation' proud and what was it so proud of?

And here is the least sarcastic question of all:

If the people you mistakenly call 'Palestinians' are anything but generic Arabs
collected from all over -- or thrown out of -- the Arab world, if they really
have a genuine ethnic identity that gives them right for self-determination, why
did they never try to become independent until Arabs suffered their devastating
defeat in the Six Day War? [Yashiko Sagamori]

[Mishmaat]

Great post!

[VforVendetta]

Their major claim is that they lived here for centuries before we came here, which is partially true because most of the jews were spread in the exile.
BUT, we have a long long history here in Israel, We had Judah empire here in this land, and there are alot of proves for that, for example, ancient structures (The Western Wall itself),
Coins from that age, tunnels and much more.
I have been last year in jerusalem and it was amazing to see this "Nikbat ha Shiloah" again (נקבת השילוח).
For those of you who dont know, Nibat ha shiloah, was a tunnel used to streaming water into Jerusalem in the siege time (by Assyria).
I think that in the time King Shlomo built the holy Temple in Jerusalem, those arabian dogs were still raping camels in saudia, so they dont belong here at all.

[Spectator]

Great post. I have one remark:

7. Can you name at least one Palestinian leader before Arafat?

I think I can. This moron surely surpasses Arafat; he was admired and considered as an inspiring example by Arafat.

Mohammad Amin al-Husayni (Arabic: محمد أمين الحسيني‎, properly transliterated al-Husseini, 1895/1897 - July 4, 1974), a member of the al-Husayni clan of Jerusalem, was a Palestinian Arab nationalist and Muslim leader in the British Mandate of Palestine. From 1921 to 1948, he was the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, and played a key role in opposition to Zionism.
 
Back in the summer of 1940 and again in February 1941, al-Hussayni submitted to the German government a draft declaration of German-Arab cooperation, containing a clause:
Germany and Italy recognize the right of the Arab countries to solve the question of the Jewish elements, which exist in Palestine and in the other Arab countries, as required by the national and ethnic (völkisch) interests of the Arabs, and as the Jewish question was solved in Germany and Italy.

Germans supported such valuable ally:
November 2, 1943 Himmler's telegram to Mufti: 'To the Grand Mufti: The National Socialist movement of Greater Germany has, since its inception, inscribed upon its flag the fight against the world Jewry. It has therefore followed with particular sympathy the struggle of freedom-loving Arabs, especially in Palestine, against Jewish interlopers. In the recognition of this enemy and of the common struggle against it lies the firm foundation of the natural alliance that exists between the National Socialist Greater Germany and the freedom-loving Muslims of the whole world. In this spirit I am sending you on the anniversary of the infamous Balfour declaration my hearty greetings and wishes for the successful pursuit of your struggle until the final victory.' Reichsfuehrer S.S. Heinrich Himmler

In his memoirs after the war, Husayni noted that
"Our fundamental condition for cooperating with Germany was a free hand to eradicate every last Jew from Palestine and the Arab world.  I asked Hitler for an explicit undertaking to allow us to solve the Jewish problem in a manner befitting our national and racial aspirations and according to the scientific methods innovated by Germany in the handling of its Jews."

On the 25 July, 1944, he wrote to the Hungarian foreign minister to register his objection to the release of certificates for 900 Jewish children and 100 adults for transfer from Hungary, fearing they might end up in Palestine. He suggested that if such transfers of population were deemed necessary, then:
 
"it would be indispensable and infinitely preferable to send them to other countries where they would find themselves under active control, as for example Poland, thus avoiding danger and preventing damage."
("Acive control in Poland" means Auschwitz, Maidanek, etc.)

On March 1, 1944, while speaking on Radio Berlin, al-Husayni said:
"Arabs, rise as one man and fight for your sacred rights. Kill the Jews wherever you find them. This pleases Allah, history, and religion. This saves your honor. Allah is with you."

[AsheDina]

Their major claim is that they lived here for centuries before we came here, which is partially true because most of the jews were spread in the exile.
BUT, we have a long long history here in Israel, We had Judah empire here in this land, and there are alot of proves for that, for example, ancient structures (The Western Wall itself),
Coins from that age, tunnels and much more.
I have been last year in jerusalem and it was amazing to see this "Nikbat ha Shiloah" again (נקבת השילוח).
For those of you who dont know, Nibat ha shiloah, was a tunnel used to streaming water into Jerusalem in the siege time (by Assyria).
I think that in the time King Shlomo built the holy Temple in Jerusalem, those arabian dogs were still raping camels in saudia, so they dont belong here at all.

These people are SELFISH. You know?? I mean they have 57 ARAB nations, its NEVER enough.