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Produce Kahanist/Zionist/Jewish Nationalist Music

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jdl4ever:
It is easy to learn basic guitar.  I learned it in a summer college course.  Drums are even easier and I am learning it myself. 

Lubab:
I have soundforge if you need it. It's a great program but I don't know how to use most of it's bells and whistles.

islamophobe:

--- Quote from: Allen-T on April 15, 2007, 11:20:43 PM ---a sonic foundation over which someone would poetically say what's on their mind has alot more potential than blacks have ever achieved with it. And technically it's not really a black invention

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Allen-T if you like hip-hop, or any music made from samples or sound collages as you call it, then credit blacks for it. Rap like, jazz, blues, and soul are black inventions, regardless of what pre-existing white music genres they borrowed from. Just like the computer as we know it is a white invention regardless of the fact that it existed in the crude form of an abacus in Asia since circa 1,000 BCE. You don't have to like the way 99% of the rappers poison society by promoting ignorance, illiteracy, and an overall disregard for human life. But if that's the musical genre that you're into, give credit or discredit (to the window... to the walls...) where it's due.

I had done a google search of that group the Soul Salah Crew. They're a group of British Muslims of Pakistani origin. To see Pakis jumping around speaking Caribbean giberish is quite silly. But I guess that's what appeals to the younger crowd they're aiming at.

As for any kind of sample based music, it it's not rap, then it's some kind of dance or techno that I can't quite picture being used for a Kahanist cause. I normaly think of gay/club/raver/extacy/drug culture when I hear of that stuff. But if you can pull it off, more power to you. Whereas rock n' roll is more universal and transcends all cultures.
    JTF did an article a while back about how America's moral decline can be traced back to Beatlemania. This just underscores what a powerful tool music is when combined with an ideology in terms of drawing masses behind a common cause, good or bad.
    Personally, I would love to see an Israeli version of this band:



They're called Dropkick Murphys. They display a lot of patriotism and pride in their Irish American roots, and sing songs about their history. It would give a cultural alternative to the garbage Israeli youth are being fed through MTV Europe and Radio Jordan. It would even draw many secular Israelis away from the left.

Allen-T:

--- Quote from: jdl4ever on April 16, 2007, 10:23:41 PM ---It is easy to learn basic guitar.  I learned it in a summer college course.  Drums are even easier and I am learning it myself. 

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I have a basic sense for drums, but it's a difficult instrument to play as far as space and living in an apartment.

Allen-T:

--- Quote from: islamophobe on April 17, 2007, 12:04:40 AM ---
--- Quote from: Allen-T on April 15, 2007, 11:20:43 PM ---a sonic foundation over which someone would poetically say what's on their mind has alot more potential than blacks have ever achieved with it. And technically it's not really a black invention

--- End quote ---

Allen-T if you like hip-hop, or any music made from samples or sound collages as you call it, then credit blacks for it. Rap like, jazz, blues, and soul are black inventions, regardless of what pre-existing white music genres they borrowed from. Just like the computer as we know it is a white invention regardless of the fact that it existed in the crude form of an abacus in Asia since circa 1,000 BCE. You don't have to like the way 99% of the rappers poison society by promoting ignorance, illiteracy, and an overall disregard for human life. But if that's the musical genre that you're into, give credit or discredit (to the window... to the walls...) where it's due.

I had done a google search of that group the Soul Salah Crew. They're a group of British Muslims of Pakistani origin. To see Pakis jumping around speaking Caribbean giberish is quite silly. But I guess that's what appeals to the younger crowd they're aiming at.

As for any kind of sample based music, it it's not rap, then it's some kind of dance or techno that I can't quite picture being used for a Kahanist cause. I normaly think of gay/club/raver/extacy/drug culture when I hear of that stuff. But if you can pull it off, more power to you. Whereas rock n' roll is more universal and transcends all cultures.
    JTF did an article a while back about how America's moral decline can be traced back to Beatlemania. This just underscores what a powerful tool music is when combined with an ideology in terms of drawing masses behind a common cause, good or bad.
    Personally, I would love to see an Israeli version of this band:



They're called Dropkick Murphys. They display a lot of patriotism and pride in their Irish American roots, and sing songs about their history. It would give a cultural alternative to the garbage Israeli youth are being fed through MTV Europe and Radio Jordan. It would even draw many secular Israelis away from the left.

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Yes you are right, blacks definitely invented rap, Gil Scott Heron and the Last Poets to be exact. But the concept of sampling has influences that aren't necessarily black, I think composers like Stockhausen were doing it in the 50's. And groups like Nurse With Wound were doing in the 70's. Interestingly, George Clinton and Funkadelic, who's records were heavily sampled in the early 90's in rap were themselves sampling back in 1971 on the LP Maggot Brain. DJ Shadow is an example of a guy with a huge record collection who has a vast knowledge of music and although alot of what he does sounds like hip-hop beats, he does alot of stuff that sounds nothing like rap, using classical music,ethnic musics, etc. I would like to do stuff similar to Shadow, similar in the sense that it would utilise alot of styles of musics that haven't been used in this manner. I am thinking that heavy Klezmer type beats could be constructed and built upon to make Kahanist music. I recently got my hands on a very rare LP of only drum beats by legendary jazz-funk drummer Bernard "Pretty" Purdie. I can't wait to start chopping them up, I think building off of Klezmer-esque beats has potential. That's where I am going to start, anyway. 

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